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Please do not use NOAA or NHC categories for images. For instance put Category:Hurricane Ian for all related images to that hurricane. Have a look to the changes of categories I have done on your uploads.
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Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) If you reply here, please ping me by using {{re|Ks0stm}} in your reply. 13:58, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
File:NEXRAD radar of the Selma, Alabama EF2.png
Hi:
This is impossible to be your own work. All data being from NEXRAD, the source must be a National Weather Service website. Could you specify the correct source, the author as being «{{w|National Weather Service }}» and the copyright as {{PD_USGov-NWS}}.
- Yes. All I need is the file undeleted and I can correct the errors. Elijahandskip (talk) 00:22, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
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File:Temora Twister February 2007 - panoramio - David Holt.jpg
Please reverse your undoing of my edit ( https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Temora_Twister_February_2007_-_panoramio_-_David_Holt.jpg&oldid=prev&diff=737746562&markasread=60541822&markasreadwiki=commonswiki). This is not a picture of a tornado but from a strong dust devil as the funnel is in blue sky in a dry environment of interior Australia. It is not because it is titled "twister", a very general term, that it is a tornado.
Pierre cb (talk) 15:13, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
- Done! My bad on that. Elijahandskip (talk) 15:21, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
Wrong page
Hi, Your message here is on the wrong page. Please repost it on the Commons:Village pump. Thanks, Yann (talk) 09:45, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hey Yann. Sorry about that, I was directed there from the common’s channel in the Wikimedia Discord. Elijahandskip (talk) 13:46, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
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User who nominated the file for deletion (Nominator) : Pierre cb.
I'm a computer program; please don't ask me questions but ask the user who nominated your file(s) for deletion or at our Help Desk. //Deletion Notification Bot 2 (talk) 00:35, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
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Concern about your first-ever uploaded file: File:2010_wikiproject_image.png
In this image, some parts of the object and subject are affecting France, Iraq, Libya and Syria, where as linked, all of them are Not OK for the purpose of COM:FOP. I'd not intend to nominate for deletion, but just wonder, that how likely they are all COM:DM or got properly licensed? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 01:28, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Still waiting for your responds regarding this issue, before, include me, anyone's DR here (not elsewhere, include not en.wikipedia). Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 13:15, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
{{PD-NEXRAD}}
Nice template but not correct. NEXRAD radar are owned and operated by the NWS exclusively. Category:TDWR radars are owned and operated by the FAA and military radars are owned by the US Defense department.
Pierre cb (talk) 11:48, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Pierre cb: Wrong actually. Per NOAA, “
The Next Generation Weather Radar (NEXRAD) system is a network of 160 high-resolution S-band Doppler weather radars jointly operated by the National Weather Service (NWS), the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), and the U.S. Air Force.
. See the NOAA website for the NEXRADs. WeatherWriter (talk) 11:55, 8 April 2024 (UTC)- Not owned. Only NWS/NOAA own the network. Pierre cb (talk) 11:59, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- Jointly owned as stated here. “
The Air Force’s 25-site replacement program is part of a three-agency U.S. government effort to standardize the 180 radars that build national weather and flight data for the National Weather Service, the Federal Aviation Administration and the U.S. military.
” + “keep the 25 NEXRAD units the Air Force owns maintained and upgraded on schedule.
” WeatherWriter (talk) 12:04, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- Jointly owned as stated here. “
- Not owned. Only NWS/NOAA own the network. Pierre cb (talk) 11:59, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- Also check out the English Wikipedia article for NEXRAD. The full history and info about them is there. WeatherWriter (talk) 11:58, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- I will comment though; even though the ownership part might have a small little typo in it. NEXRAD is still owned by the federal government; and is thus still in the public domain; whether or not it is NOAA or the FAA, they are both federal agencies. 2601:5C5:4201:68B0:D882:6FF1:3ECC:6F07 17:33, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Miss click?
I dont remember doing this edition, maybe it was a miss click Wilfredor (talk) 20:26, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- I sort of figured, lol. I was more just confused at first, but after not hearing back in the first few minutes, I was figuring it was a misclick. Don't worry 'bout it! WeatherWriter (talk) 20:29, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
Does this count as a valid PD rationale?
I found an ArcGIS StoryMap directly produced by the National Weather Service in collaboration between their Dallas and San Antonio forecast offices. (URL: https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/05696a8e01bc4e91a0a941290a62e86d) and it features the very same dead man walking tornado picture that is currently being nominated for deletion. Would that StoryMap since it’s directly produced by the NWS count as a valid PD rationale, even though it isn’t explicitly on a .gov website? I’ll add that it does link directly from the NWS San Antonio page on event summaries. So it was clearly made by the National Weather Service. Plus the specific StoryMap page has the NOAA/NWS logo on it, which are both registered trademarks of the aforementioned NOAA/NWS. If ArcGIS was unilaterally using those logos; they’d probably be sued by the federal government for trademark infringement. I have also left a very similar message on your Wikipedia talk page. 2601:5C5:4201:68B0:D882:6FF1:3ECC:6F07 17:32, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
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Rlandmann (talk) 10:43, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Just as a side note @Rlandmann, I found actual written proof that the National Weather Service indicates whether or not a particular picture on their website is under copyright protection. It’s on the NWS Norman FAQ. I have a link to it on the deletion discussion. WestVirginiaWX (talk) 04:55, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
Comment: ignore what I put above. See discussion for why. WestVirginiaWX (talk) 22:37, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
1997 Jerrell tornado.
Just to warn in advance. There is a deletion request affecting all Non-NWS images on NWS servers. And that argument is currently veering towards deletion. If the consensus is to delete. I (or someone else) will have to re-nominate the 1997 Jerrell Dead Man Walking tornado picture for deletion. I am notifying all who participated in the original discussion. WestVirginiaWX (talk) 22:36, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- I have reluctantly had to renominate the file for deletion. WestVirginiaWX (talk) 16:38, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
File:1965 Elkhart Double Tornado-Palm Sunday.jpg
Hi, an NOAA staff has relied me that NOAA was unclear about the copyright status of this photo. As a result they have removed this photo from their website. You may miss the discussion at VPC. If you have no objection, I will roll back your edits later. 0x0a (talk) 04:45, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- I checked the archived discussion at VPC. You did not provide proof of the NOAA reply. There was already a deletion request regarding the image, which determined it is public domain. The image is in the NOAA photo library, which states “
Images in the NOAA Photo Library are in the public domain and cannot be copyrighted. There is no fee for downloading any images on the site. Educational use is encouraged as the primary goal of the NOAA Photo Library is to help all understand our oceans and atmosphere.
” Do not revert the edits back without a full discussion (probably signed off by an administrator) a true reason to overturn the U.S. government template, which has already been checked, confirmed, and discussed. WeatherWriter (talk) 05:01, 8 August 2024 (UTC)- I still have the NOAA's reply in my email, concluding that NOAA would no longer endorse the image for being in the public domain. Due to privacy concerns, I can only forward this email to VRT members, such as Krd. If you need a full discussion, I will file a deletion discussion later. 0x0a (talk) 05:22, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- You can’t take back copyright licenses? Like, that image has been in the public domain for years. Legally, they can’t say it isn’t public domain anymore. This is one of the most used photographs of a tornado in the world. Tineye reverse search showed nearly 300 instant uses, including big-name media like WIRED and The Weather Channel. Sorry if I do not believe you, but I highly doubt NOAA actually said it isn’t PD anymore. I even found The Washington Post using it, crediting NOAA because it is in the public domain. WeatherWriter (talk) 05:32, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- I have published the content of the email here, due to privacy reasons, I do not disclose the email address, please kinly copy your opinions to the discussion. If you have any doubts about the authenticity of the email, you can also contact their public email at: "photolibrary@noaa.gov". Thank you. 0x0a (talk) 06:00, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- You can’t take back copyright licenses? Like, that image has been in the public domain for years. Legally, they can’t say it isn’t public domain anymore. This is one of the most used photographs of a tornado in the world. Tineye reverse search showed nearly 300 instant uses, including big-name media like WIRED and The Weather Channel. Sorry if I do not believe you, but I highly doubt NOAA actually said it isn’t PD anymore. I even found The Washington Post using it, crediting NOAA because it is in the public domain. WeatherWriter (talk) 05:32, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- I still have the NOAA's reply in my email, concluding that NOAA would no longer endorse the image for being in the public domain. Due to privacy concerns, I can only forward this email to VRT members, such as Krd. If you need a full discussion, I will file a deletion discussion later. 0x0a (talk) 05:22, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- By the way, the image still exists in the NOAA libary. So as of August 8, 2024, it is a confirmed public domain image. WeatherWriter (talk) 05:06, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
Please remain calm and collegial

WestVirginiaWX (talk) 17:50, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: telling Rlandmann “congratulations for creating chaos” can potentially be considered a personal attack, even if that isn’t what you intended. And it will only escalate problems. WestVirginiaWX (talk) 17:53, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
RfC: Third-party images published by the National Weather Service
I've now reviewed 1,000 images uploaded under the rationales expressed in the {{PD-NWS}} template and requested deletion of several.
The arguments for deletion, and to keep, are now following repetitive, predictable patterns and it would greatly help all involved if we could centralise discussion and obtain some wider community input.
Therefore, I have opened an RfC to gather opinions. Apologies in advance: it's long and detailed, but is frankly nothing compared to the words and time expended by all parties up to this point. Probably the most crucial issue revolves around how we interpret a general disclaimer published at weather.gov (Q.1 in the RfC).
Your advice is greatly appreciated! --Rlandmann (talk) 10:33, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
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Access to Weatherwise journal?
Do you by any chance have online access to Weatherwise? I'm trying to nail down first publication of File:June_8_1966_Southwestern_Topeka_Kansas_tornado_damage.jpg. I can see it was printed in https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00431672.1966.9930516 but I don't have access and would rather not fork out $60 for the privilege of viewing one article!
I don't think that was the first publication; but it might help with the paper trail of zeroing in on what was. My working hypothesis is that it first appeared in a Topeka newspaper with no notice, but I can't prove this yet, and the AP had acquired the rights within 48 hours of the disaster. I think someone else ran the photo first, though. If you do have access to that journal, I'd appreciate a look-up! --Rlandmann (talk) 02:14, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- I have access to the paper. It is published on the second page of the paper. WeatherWriter (talk) 02:21, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! Did they include an attribution? --Rlandmann (talk) 02:50, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- "World-Wide photo" is the only text attached with it. WeatherWriter (talk) 03:15, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! Did they include an attribution? --Rlandmann (talk) 02:50, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
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Please let me know if there is an educational use for such an image without the presumably unfree third party image embedded in it, and I will gladly help you to find a suitable NWS page to screenshot. --Rlandmann (talk) 22:05, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
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One iddy bitty problem with File:Dash cam footage of the 2024 Lincoln tornado.webm
While the dashcam video itself is unambiguously PD auto, the lower thirds graphics from AccuWeather are not. Is there any way we can clip those or blur those out? Thank you. Hurricane Clyde 🌀my talk page! 07:38, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
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