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For new beginners, talk pages may be confusing. Fortunately, some extensions are used to enhance talk pages. The ת××××ת ×××€× ×©××× extension can make it easier to create and reply talk pages, and automatically sign your comments. StructuredDiscussions is another extension, which uses structured talk pages instead of ordinary talk pages.
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Default configuration for Wikimedia wikis
Wikimedia wikis use discussion tools as a default feature for talk pages. This tool allows users to start a topic and respond to comments in both visual and wikitext editing modes.
Pages in the main namespace have the prefix Talk: added at the beginning of its talk page title.
For example, Talk:Download, Talk:Hosting services, etc.
While pages in other namespaces start with the name of the namespace, then Talk:, before the pages title name.
For example, User:Network-charles becomes User talk:Network-charles, Project:Sandbox becomes Project talk:Sandbox, etc.
Add a new topic by going to the discussion page and clicking on the box saying "×ת××ת × ××©× ××ש". If the talk page is empty, an "××ס׀ת × ×ש×" button at the top right corner of the page is used to create a topic.
Reply to a comment by clicking on "ת××××" after the comment.
When adding a new topic, or responding to a given message, you can switch between "visual" and "wikitext" modes.
This tool automatically signs your messages.
You can also edit the wikitext of the page, as described below.
When using wikitext on talk pages
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××× ××ךק? --[[User:Example|×××]] 18:07, 26 ××××××¡× 1991 (UTC)
: ××× × ××ך!! --[[×שת×ש:×××××|ס×××××]] 11:21, 28 ××××××¡× 1991 (UTC)
:: ××× ×ª× ×××ª× ×ע׊××! -- [[×שת×ש:×××××|×××]] 14:11, 3 ×ס׀×××ך 1991 (UTC)
×× × ××ש×ת ש×××× ××ךק ׊ך×× ××¢××ך ×[[××£ ש×××:×ךק]].. -- [[×שת×ש:×××××|××ס×]] 21:55, 3 ×ס׀×××ך 1991 (UTC)
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When using talk pages
- On a talk page, when contributors are discussing and mention "this page", they usually mean the main page it's connected to. If they mean the talk page itself, they'll say "this talk page" instead.
- Always refer to the current page name when debating its title or discussing merging it with another page. This prevents ambiguity when the page is renamed (moved), as references to "this page name" would otherwise be unclear.
- Spamming, which involves sending lots of similar messages to multiple users' talk pages to ask for something is not recommended.
Alternate conventions
We are aware that this most widespread convention is problematic for many reasons:
- It generates invalid HTML structure by appropriation of the definition-list syntax;
- It is fragile against table insertions;
- There are no real paragraphs.
Some wikis are known to use * instead for the first problem mentioned above. Follow your local rules.
To avoid breaking complex formatting when replying, match what the comment you are replying to uses to indent, prepending one additional : or *.
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- If discussions are put in the wrong place on the wiki, and are better associated with different talk pages, then you could just move the discussion by cut & paste.
This is potentially confusing for the people posting, but it can be important for keeping things tidy. You could leave the discussion in the wrong place for a few days/weeks of grace before tidying it. You could leave a link behind explaining that a discussion was moved, or if not, you should link within the edit summary.
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See also
- MessageBox on Meatball Wiki