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Have you noticed that some wikis have a different desktop interface? Are you curious about the next steps? Maybe you have questions or ideas regarding the design or technical matters?

Join an online meeting with the team working on the Desktop Improvements! It will take place on October 12th, 16:00 UTC on Zoom. It will last an hour. Click here to join.

Agenda

• Update on the recent developments
• Sticky header - presentation of the demo version
• Questions and answers, discussion

Format

The meeting will not be recorded or streamed. Notes will be taken in a Google Docs file. The presentation part (first two points in the agenda) will be given in English.

We can answer questions asked in English, French, Polish, and Spanish. If you would like to ask questions in advance, add them on the talk page or send them to sgrabarczuk@wikimedia.org.

Olga Vasileva (the team manager) will be hosting this meeting.

Invitation link

• Join online
• Meeting ID: 829 3670 1376
• Dial by your location

We hope to see you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) 15:09, 4 October 2021 (UTC) MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:09, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Hello! I'd like to remind that the meeting will happen today. You are welcome to join! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 14:56, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

I am planning to remove the main namespace from the wgExtraSignatureNamespaces configuration setting on this wiki. I think this will have very little impact, but letting you know just in case. For more context, see task T291630 (although I'm happy to reply here if you have any questions).

Currently, that configuration setting affects:

• Whether there is a "Signature and timestamp" button on the editing toolbar in that namespace
• Whether DiscussionTools's reply tool and new topic tool are available in that namespace

It was configured that way in 2014 for all "special" wikis (basically, anything other than the Wikimedia projects with multiple language versions), on the assumption that they often have discussions, including their "village pump" equivalent, in [main namespace]. This doesn't seem correct for this wiki. We're planning to use that config setting for future discussion-related features, and it would probably be unexpected if they showed up in the main namespace here.

Please let me know if there's any problem with this. Thanks. Matma Rex (talk) 18:36, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 18:44, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

:thumbsup: Legoktm (talk) 16:45, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

The change has been applied now. Matma Rex (talk) 11:38, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

Hello, line 4873 of file DefaultSettings.php reads $wgMaxTemplateDepth = 40 . Apparently "The current parser adds two levels to the PHP call stack for each template, and xdebug limits the call stack to 100 by default. So this should hopefully stop the parser before it hits the xdebug limit." This suggests the maximum depth could be amended to 48 or 49. For wikispecies there is an issue with eg where there are c.43 templates, and so the category "Pages where expansion depth is exceeded" is created. It is unclear if there are other repercussion. Please advise as to the impact on Anas formosa - and the possibility of the limit being increased as above. Thank you, ~ Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 21:28, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

This forum is mainly (only) for discussing the website itself. You could ask on the support desk or on phabricator. Clump (talk) 22:07, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

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Hello!

We, the team working on the Community Wishlist Survey, would like to invite you to an online meeting with us. It will begin on 27 October (Wednesday) at 14:30 UTC on Zoom, and will last an hour. Click here to join.

Agenda

• Become a Community Wishlist Survey Ambassador. Help us spread the word about the CWS in your community.
• Update on the disambiguation and the real-time preview wishes
• Questions and answers

Format

The meeting will not be recorded or streamed. Notes without attribution will be taken and published on Meta-Wiki. The presentation (all points in the agenda except for the questions and answers) will be given in English.

We can answer questions asked in English, French, Polish, Spanish, German, and Italian. If you would like to ask questions in advance, add them on the Community Wishlist Survey talk page or send to sgrabarczuk@wikimedia.org.

Natalia Rodriguez (the Community Tech manager) will be hosting this meeting.

Invitation link

• Join online
• Meeting ID: 83847343544
• Dial by your location

We hope to see you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 23:00, 22 October 2021 (UTC) MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:00, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi all. Over the last day or two it seems mass deleting pages is (sometimes) just resulting in a response listing each page as "... has been queued for deletion." rather than actually deleting them. The queued pages can still be deleted individually, one by one, so it's nothing to do with the pages themselves, and despite the queueing message they do not actually seem to be eventually deleted, at least not on a short time scale (1/2hr or so). Is this intentional or a bug, and if intentional how do I encourage the delete queue to be processed?

Hmm. Eventually worked, just took ~45min to do so. Clump (talk) 17:57, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

The change to make the deletion queued instead of immiedate was an intentional result of phab:T212690. It taking more than half an hour for the pages to be actually deleted is probably a bug, but I have no means of investigating it, and I just did a deletion of a translation page using Special:PageTranslationDeletePage (which has always been queued), and it was processed very quickly. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 18:07, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. It is very intermittent---mostly it is still very responsive, but sometimes it is just not. The fix to batch things seems good, but yes, taking dramatically longer than it takes to delete each one manually, one by one does seems like a flaw. Clump (talk) 18:14, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

I re-opened T188679, we probably need to prioritize these jobs in the job queue. Legoktm (talk) 19:04, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Ok; thanks! Clump (talk) 20:02, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

As an additional data point, a mass delete of the 24 pages created by 2A02:2788:6B4:ABF:6D66:5460:8B5C:708D did not make any progress in ~13hrs. Clump (talk) 11:32, 29 October 2021 (UTC)