Commons:Categories for discussion/2025/05

Category:Benzol locomotives of Germany

Ironside, Son & Co, Gracechurch Street, London - 'New Century' motor locomotives run on petrol, paraffin or benzol

I propose, to rename this to Category:Gasoline locomotives of Germany similar to those of Indonesia or the United States (please keep the old category name as a link and remane also Category:Deutz benzol locomotives to Category:Deutz gasoline locomotives while keeping the old category name as a link). NearEMPTiness (talk) 11:17, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

Benzol translates as "benzene" and is C6H6. Benzin translates as petrol in British English and gasoline in American English. I don't know the technical history of the benzene motors and why they were called so. Thus it would need a clear technical explanation why this category could be renamed. Otherwise it should be renamed "Benzene locomotives of Germany".
Eine Benzol-Lokomotive ist nicht einfach eine Benzin-Lokomotive. Ob man diese zwei technisch zusammenfassen darf, müsste genau erläutert werden. Gürbetaler (talk) 14:09, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
Reading en:Internal combustion locomotive#Benzene leads me to believe that these locomotives really did run on benzene (C6H6), not gasoline. I  Support @Gürbetaler's recommendation to rename to "Benzene locomotives...". Omphalographer (talk) 21:43, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
Sorry, by now, I think that it should be kept as it is, to avoid mix-ups between the German term Benzin and the English term benzene. The term Benzol was also occasionally used in English, as shown in the advertisement. --NearEMPTiness (talk) 08:38, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
@NearEMPTiness: I also say sorry, as we ought to use a consistent name across categories for a given topic, per the Universality Principle. Things can be liberating if the principle does not exist (we can avoid using similarly-spelt terms), but that's not the case here. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs • uploads) 16:43, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Monuments of National Importance

I propose, to rename this to Category:Monuments of National Importance in India NearEMPTiness (talk) 11:33, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

@NearEMPTiness: Why? Is that term used somewhere else? -- Auntof6 (talk) 11:51, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
No, it isn't used yet on Wikimedia Commons, but monuments of national importance could be in any country. --NearEMPTiness (talk) 11:54, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
Yes, "monuments of national importance," in lower case, could be in any country. However, when capitalized it appears to refer only to this official term used in India. If it must be qualified, I would suggest "Monuments of National Importance (India)," but I don't see the need to change it. -- Auntof6 (talk) 20:02, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
 Keep as it is – @NearEMPTiness and Auntof6: Although similar lists also exist in other countries (see Category:National monuments), only India names its list of national monuments as "Monuments of National Importance". Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs • uploads) 16:47, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
 Keep By now, I agree, to keep it simple. --NearEMPTiness (talk) 14:24, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
Prefer original nom in lowercase. How else can it be parented to Monuments? Laurel Lodged (talk) 15:42, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Mining equipment in United States (Done)

Please move to Category:Mining equipment in the United States NearEMPTiness (talk) 16:22, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

Support. I did not check other categories' names before omitting the the. Викидим (talk) 19:15, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
 Support – @NearEMPTiness: A category discussion is pointless in this case, as it is uncontroversial. Go to Special:MovePage/Category:Mining equipment in United States and rename this category. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs • uploads) 16:49, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Done including re-categorising files and sub-categories. --NearEMPTiness (talk) 14:12, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Flying Coaster (roller coaster model)

I am proposing that this category be deleted as over-categorization. It appears that the category has been created specifically for Flying roller coasters manufactured by Vekoma. However, the terminology used by Vekoma appears to vary between "Flying Coaster" and "Flying Dutchman". Because there is no clear term in use, and the limited scope of projects, this should be deleted. Astros4477 (talk) 23:45, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:World War II memorials in Geghamavan

Delete. Only one WWII memorial in the Geghamavan. Kareyac (talk) 05:00, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Varistors for high voltage surge arresters

I propose to move the four files into Category:Varistors and then delete this category, please NearEMPTiness (talk) 06:17, 2 May 2025 (UTC)


 Keep The name "varistor" is usually used for low-voltage component , more often for electronics . It is a component by itself. "Varistors for high voltage surge arresters" are sub-components of surge arresters, only used in the High voltage electrical field. --Zen 38 (talk) 11:22, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Copyright collective (Done)

I propose, to rename this to Category:Copyright collectives NearEMPTiness (talk) 08:38, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Good idea. thanks! iopensa (talk) 16:02, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
 Support – @NearEMPTiness: A category discussion is pointless in this case, as it is uncontroversial. Go to Special:MovePage/Category:Copyright collective and rename this category. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs • uploads) 16:50, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Done including re-categorising the three subcategories. --NearEMPTiness (talk) 14:16, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:1888 in Central Business District, Sydney

empty category Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 14:30, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:October 1902 in Pyrmont, New South Wales

empty category Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 14:35, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:October 1902 in Central Business District, Sydney

empty category Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 14:35, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:1902 in Central Business District, Sydney

empty category Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 14:36, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:1900 in Central Business District, Sydney

empty category Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 14:37, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:1829 in Central Business District, Sydney

empty category Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 14:48, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:1835 in Central Business District, Sydney

empty category Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 14:53, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:1836 in Central Business District, Sydney

empty category Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 14:55, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:1888 in Suburb of Sydney, New South Wales

empty category Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 15:18, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:1909 in Suburb of Sydney, New South Wales

empty category Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 15:29, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:October 1902 in Suburb of Sydney, New South Wales

empty category Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 15:36, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:2011 in Inner West Council

empty category Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 15:52, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:St. Georg (Gelsenkirchen-Schalke)

There is another category about this church: Category:St.-Georgs-Kirche (Gelsenkirchen) Cmcmcm1 (talk) 18:04, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Graz Linien Wagen 940

The category of this bus should also be named after the name of the type (Graz Linien Hyundai Elec City Fuel Cell) Öffis Graz (talk) 21:26, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

 Neutral While I don't see a clear need, it doesn't hurt either to include the bus type in the category name. MB-one (talk) 06:55, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Graz Linien Wagen 941

The category of this bus should also be named after the name of the type (Graz Linien MAN Lion’s City 12E ) Öffis Graz (talk) 21:29, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

 Neutral While I don't see a clear need, it doesn't hurt either to include the bus type in the category name. MB-one (talk) 06:56, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Categories of New South Wales

I don't think we need a category named "category". We have New South Wales by topic, so "Categories of New South Wales" is superflous. Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 03:39, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

I would like to include Category:Categories of New South Wales by year in this. - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 03:40, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
  •  Delete To my awareness "By year" categories are normally put in the topic category without a "Categories of" category. Crouch, Swale (talk) 13:04, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
 Delete. "Categories of..." categories are almost always redundant. Categories related to some topic should be under the top-level category for that topic; there's no need for an extra level of indirection. Omphalographer (talk) 22:15, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
 Delete per above. Category:New South Wales by topic has replaced this metacat for most purposes, rendering this category useless beyond categorizing other metacats. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs • uploads) 16:52, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

shouldn't this be merged to Category:Petroleum statistics? Prototyperspective (talk) 16:34, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

I think the charts and graphs should be moved to petroleum statistics. The rest (diagrams, etc.) should be moved to petroleum infographics. The petroleum statistics would be a subcategory of petroleum infographics. --Timeshifter (talk) 18:29, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
Makes sense. Per the category title I think there shouldn't be any diagrams in this category. However, looking through it, there are some diagrams in it. Prototyperspective (talk) 23:10, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Cultural history of New South Wales

I think this category structure needs to be reviewed, I can see what they are trying to do, but it is very deep and I think we can coalesce Category:Cultural history of Australia by state or territory to just be Category:Human activities in New South Wales (and we of course need to do this for each state and territory). It looks unlikely we will ever expand the intermidiary categories. - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 00:25, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

 Delete. This is one of the most ridiculously excessive and circuitous hierarchies I've seen in a long time. For posterity, a major element of this hierarchy was:
with a couple of side branches which mostly lead to the same photos of grain silos, such as:
To be clear, there are a couple of real branches for other content buried in here like Category:Police equipment of the New South Wales Police Force and Category:Hangars in New South Wales. But most of it is just layers and layers of categories which just make it impossible to find anything in here. (The eventual categorization of all of these photos under "popular psychology" is particularly ridiculous.) All of this needs to be upmerged with a vengeance - taking a clearly tangible subject like "grain silos" and burying it in a pile of abstractions like "human behavior" or "supply chain engineering" is not helpful. Omphalographer (talk) 17:41, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Culture of New South Wales

Please note I'm not suggesting we delete this topic, however this category is all over the place. What are we trying to do with this? What areas do we want to include - I would appreciate seeing if we could come up with a better structure to this category. - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 00:34, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

Probably something that needs a wider discussion at COM:VPP regarding "Category:Culture of "? Bidgee (talk) 06:11, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Stilmöbel

I propose, to move this category to Category:Retro style furniture NearEMPTiness (talk) 09:32, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

 Oppose; I'd prefer to diffuse the category to more specific categories and delete it. "Retro style" is inherently subjective and time-dependent, and not all of the images in this category are even furniture. Omphalographer (talk) 17:26, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Saint Holy Mother of God church in Eranos village

Delete, not accurate name. Kareyac (talk) 14:32, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:2025-05-11 Run for Peace Wikipedia radelt mit

Kategorie bitte löschen, wegen Tippfehler, die korrekte Kat ist erstelle Pimpinellus(D) • MUC•K•T 16:55, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Food and drink in Europe

Somebody invented "food and drink" categories, two things together, the worst way of categorization. For example, in this Europe category, Italy and Turkey, two major countries with their contributions to the continent's gastronomy (food and drinks) do not even exist, while Greece is represented with a glass of beer! On the other hand, "food" categories include beverages everywhere. Simple question: Is milk not the very first and basic food that we humans and most animals consume? What about water? Therefore this dual arrangement is a total mess. Very regrettable. I was trying to avoid criticism and help within the existing parameters, but this is really disappointing. Please delete all "food and drink" categorization scheme. Dahiyane (talk) 00:15, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

@Dahiyane: See also the category discussion Commons:Categories for discussion/2024/07/Category:Food and drink. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs • uploads) 15:33, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Hatherley House, Chipping Barnet

This is Tudor Hall. Hatherley House is next door. https://www.conance.co.uk/contact-us/ 82.22.173.0 21:29, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Travel in Australia by state or territory

Travel in Australia… needs to be merged to Tourism in Australia… note that I’m referring to the subcategories and not the primary category Category:Travel in Australia. - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 00:26, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

 Oppose — @Chris.sherlock2: We have both Category:Tourism in Australia by state or territory and Category:Transport in Australia by state or territory, both of which are valid subcats of Category:Travel in Australia by state or territory. You cannot put "transport" under "tourism", as "tourism" is about "travel for pleasure", while "transport" covers the means of travelling. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs • uploads) 09:26, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
Hmmm I had a look at the global category tree more carefully. The confusion is that Travel and Tourism aren’t linked in that scheme, but somehow have been in the Australian scheme. I’ve fixed this now, so yes, you make a good point. - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 01:35, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Human activities in Australia

Human activities is a level too high - we don’t need this. Take all the categories out of human activities and move them to activities in Australia. It’s unnecessary heirachy. We need to apply the YAGNI principle to this category. Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 00:33, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

I'm going to withdraw this now I've had another look. It turns out when I checked the global structure there is some use to this after all... - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 08:22, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Educational institutions in Australia

This is not needed - make it Category: Educational Organisations in Australia. - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 01:14, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

 Wait — @Chris.sherlock2: We have a category discussion at Commons:Categories for discussion/2025/04/Category:Educational institutions. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs • uploads) 09:28, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Academia in Australia by state or territory

Empty category and all subcategories are empty also. - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 01:19, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Education facilities in Australia by state or territory

Not necessary. All of these categories can be placed under Category:Educational Organisations… - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 01:22, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

I disagree. This is a standard category used also for other countries (see Category:Education facilities by country). There is a difference between a facility (eg a building) and an organisation. If it is the case that some of the files in these categories are wrongly categorised, then the solution is to recat them, not to delete some of the categories. Bahnfrend (talk) 03:02, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
I went ahead and did some reorganisation. Sorry, you are correct and this is a necessary category. Apologies. I withdraw the nomination. - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 04:56, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Naval ships named after people

I'm not sure if it redirection is good: I'm not a native English speaker, but I think not every ship is a warship... f. e. "Andrey Vilkitskiy (ship, 1966)" is an icebreaker. Wieralee (talk) 14:20, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

I agree with Wieralee. Navies have ice breakers, survey ships, tugs etc. Additionally the main category is simply Category:Naval ships, not warships. The move should undo. @Illegitimate Barrister: can you comment on moving this category? MKFI (talk) 11:55, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
What about submarines? A submarine is a boat, not a ship. Laurel Lodged (talk) 15:49, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Human populations

What is the scope of this category? Is this category restricted to only population statistics, or does it also cover population groups like Category:Ethnic groups and Category:Tribes? Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs • uploads) 16:02, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Anthropological categories of peoples

Redundant to Category:Social groups. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs • uploads) 16:39, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

 Keep Not the same. Prototyperspective (talk) 11:33, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
@Prototyperspective: How is this category distinct from Category:Social groups or the broader Category:Groups of people? Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs • uploads) 14:15, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
Mainly 1. Not all of those here are actual groups 2. Not all of those at social groups are anthropological categories. Prototyperspective (talk) 16:25, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Heterotrophs

Category used to categorize food chains, and is thus redundant to Category:Food chain. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs • uploads) 17:06, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Hybrids

Is this topic restricted to only organisms, or does it also include hybrids like Category:Hybrid architecture, Category:Hybrid flags, Category:Hybrid style or Category:Yoga hybrids? Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs • uploads) 17:08, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

I think it's about hybrids in biology and that those cats would need to be removed if they're in this cat. Also see the Wikidata infobox. Prototyperspective (talk) 22:25, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Sleeping organisms

Redundant to Category:Sleeping animals, as so far only animals (including humans) sleep or appear to be sleeping. I'm not a biologist, and I'm not sure whether plants, fungi or microbes can sleep, or at least appear to be sleeping in the traditional sense. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs • uploads) 17:26, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

 Support. There are various biological definitions of "sleep", but none of them meaningfully apply to organisms outside Animalia. As it stands, this category - as well as many of its subcategories - is primarily being used as a union of categories which count sleeping animals and ones which count sleeping people; this does not strike me as a useful generalization. (There's no realistic situation where one would say e.g. "I need a picture of five sleeping organisms, but it doesn't matter if they're animals or people.") Omphalographer (talk) 23:14, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Rare animals

Unclear purpose for this and its children. Seems to mix rare breeds, endangered wild species, and vagrants that are rare where photographed but common otherwise. Not to mention King Charles Spaniels and "Exceptionally fluffy animals"! Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:47, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

 Delete Move contents to one of the subcategories at Category:Species by IUCN Red List category depending on conservation status, and delete this one when empty. ReneeWrites (talk) 08:15, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
 Comment Do not move. Neither "bird rarities" nor rare (endangered) breeds belong under any sort of IUCN category. 1) they are not species 2) they have nothing to do with IUCN classification. Bird rarities are rare by context, not population size; Upupa epops is Least Concern, but spotting one in the UK or Finland is very rare; local bird books list it as a rare visiting species and document the latest confirmed sighting as of the publication of the guide. If anything, certain IUCN status categories should be placed under this one. --Pitke (talk) 16:09, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
  •  Redirect Synonym of Endangered animals in my view. -- Basile Morin (talk) 05:23, 9 May 2025 (UTC) Updated comment per below. -- Basile Morin (talk) 03:13, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
    Rare implies low total quantity if not relative to a specific region which is the case for many endangered animals, including extinct animals, but also arguably various other ones such as animals with certain mutations, rare dog breeds and whatnot. So I think it should not redirect there but maybe could become a disambig page with a link to there. Prototyperspective (talk) 12:22, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
     Comment Redirect to what category? We already have well defined cats for endangered species, but none other that would encompass endangered species, contextually rare sightings (like Upupa epops in GB), and animals with mutations or unusual expressions of common phenotypes. Did you mean rename? --Pitke (talk) 12:49, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
 Info I've created Category:Rarity. -- Basile Morin (talk) 02:11, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Mexican Shepherd

I can't find any indication that this is a recognized dog breed. Omphalographer (talk) 18:12, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Actually, you might be right. I assumed the dog in the photo was a "Mexican Shepherd" based on this description about it in Spanish (can be found in details of the photo):
Moye o Pastor Mexicano: Esta raza habita en el sur de la Republica Mexicana, principalmente en climas calientes. Una de las caracteristicas principales de esta raza son las orejas grandes levantadas y algo puntiagudas. su pelaje es de una combinacion perfecta del color blanco y negro, brilloso y suave. Sucaracter es otra de las caracteristicas que distinguen a esta raza es su caracter amistoso y jugueton. Una de sus virtudes es que es un magnifico guardian capas de detectar y avisar si se acerca alguien que no es de el lugar donde se encuentra. Esta raza es ideal para convivir con la familia y cuidar el hogar.
However, Mexican Kennel Club has not recognized any breed under this name (as the Mexican Wolfdog/ Calupoh is a completely different breed). Canarian (talk) 18:56, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
Yeah, I saw that description too, but the impression I get is that the author was probably just describing their own dog in glowing terms. It happens a lot. Omphalographer (talk) 20:32, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
 Delete one file (low qua, out of scope) plus the cat per nom. Taylor 49 (talk) 19:44, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Body language in Australia

Empty category Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 20:16, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:FREDERICK OF NAPLES

Should be deleted. It's empty and an all CAPs. Smasongarrison (talk) 21:48, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Mapuche Shepherd

Just as with Category:Mexican Shepherd, this appears to be a description of someone's own dog, not a recognized breed. Omphalographer (talk) 00:24, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

 Delete both files plus the cat per nom. Taylor 49 (talk) 19:43, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:TV Ponta Verde

Category seems to be created as advertising and has no images in it. Nv8200pa (talk) 01:46, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Bell charging station, Sydney, NSW

empty category Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 09:58, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Bell charging stations in Australia

empty category Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 09:58, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Mickey Mouse goods in Australia

empty category Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 11:28, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Minnie Mouse goods in Australia

empty category Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 11:28, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Disney character goods in Australia

empty category Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 11:29, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Character goods in Australia

empty category Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 11:29, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Historical documents

A useless category. All documents are historical. Rathfelder (talk) 14:09, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Oof. Yeah, this is no good - this category is being used as a dumping ground for documents which the uploader couldn't identify, or didn't take the time to categorize properly. The categories under Category:Historical documents by country should be upmerged to the corresponding "Documents of ..." categories. I'm not sure what to do with files directly categorized under Category:Historical documents; my inclination would be to simply decategorize them and tag as {{Uncategorized}} if they aren't in any more specific category. At least they'll eventually get looked at that way, rather than lingering here forever. Omphalographer (talk) 21:31, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
I am working through them. Rathfelder (talk) 18:14, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Woodland, California

Woodland CA is home to 2 Sundials in the North American Sundial Registry. Registry dial # 950 is an analemmatic dial located at the Cache Creek Nature Preserve, 34199 CR 20, Woodland. Dial #1095 is a rare polar dial in the front yard of a residence at 410 Paula Way, Woodland. Both dials have interpretive signs / QR codes explaining how to use them and are easily viewed by the public. The only other sundial in the Sacramento Valley in the Registry is an equatorial dial #1024 located on the campus of American River College, Sacramento. Timmonswilliams (talk) 16:07, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

WTF? I'm not sure what you're proposing be done here. Omphalographer (talk) 20:35, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
  • I'm not sure either, it doesn't appear there is more than 1 place called "Woodland" (singular or without "Hills") per GeoNames so I don't think disambiguation is a problem and the category has 11 sub categories and 52 files so I don't think it being too large (or too small) is a problem. Crouch, Swale (talk) 13:55, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:SVG buffalo

Does this category refer to buffalo in American or British English? In American English, "buffalo" refers to Category:Bison bison (American bison), while in British English it refers to Category:Bubalus bubalis (water buffaloes). Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs • uploads) 18:10, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:People painted by Frans Hals

This category contains subcategories of specific people: not "Paintings of <person> by Frans Hals", but just their names. I don't think that's useful. Being painted by a certain artist is not a defining characteristic of the people as a group. Auntof6 (talk) 02:24, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Actually it is. In the period he painted, it's significant that he is only documented for painting a handful of people in Amsterdam on location at a guild, and everybody else he painted was physically in Haarlem where he painted them. He is documented as stating that he couldn't leave home to finish the painting he started in Amsterdam. Jane023 (talk) 07:42, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
@Jane023: Thanks, that's interesting. Some questions:
  • Is the notable part the fact that they were painted in Amsterdam? If so, maybe the category name could specify that.
  • Did he paint anything other than people in Amsterdam? If so, maybe the category doesn't need to specify "people", or maybe we need a category for everything painted there, with the people category being a subcat.
I'm thinking the category might be better with a different name, depending on the answers (but please don't rename it while this discussion is still open). Thanks. -- Auntof6 (talk) 08:34, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
No he only painted about 5 people in Amsterdam in one painting that was finished by another painter. Almost all others (over 300) were painted in Haarlem. It serves as an interesting datapoint for people of the Northern Netherlands in the 17th century. During the latter part of his life (from 1650 onwards) most people who could afford and desired portraits traveled to the Hague Amsterdam, not Haarlem. Jane023 (talk) 10:15, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
That may be the case, but a category on Commons isn't an appropriate place to represent that information. Our primary purpose here is to categorize media (like the actual paintings), not to describe relationships between things (like "this person had a portrait painted of them by Frans Hals"). Omphalographer (talk) 20:43, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
I disagree. A similar category could be made for people of Amsterdam painted by Rembrandt. Jane023 (talk) 14:29, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Chinese FOP cases (indoor)

The Chinese FOP now accepted indoor works, so I think there is no need to categorize them as they are no longer considered as copyvio A1Cafel (talk) 08:44, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Surely this category would be a great starting point for revisiting these deletions? Just because it isn't applicable anymore doesn't mean we should forget that it ever was. Omphalographer (talk) 20:44, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Political assassinations and attempts

Two eggs in one basket, only one subcategory! How can it be "and" then? 186.173.46.48 11:16, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

 Delete. Not because of the union (which isn't necessarily wrong here), but because it's redundant to Category:Assassination. The vast majority of assassinations are, to some degree or another, political in nature; even if this category were populated it'd be largely redundant. Omphalographer (talk) 22:57, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Inlaid mechanical table (Oeben & Vandercruse)

Duplicate with Category:Madame de Pompadour's mechanical table (MET 1982.60.61) The newer category could be the preferred one since it has the MET inventory number in the name. Sand-castle virtues (talk) 13:16, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Warner Bros. controversies

This category is out of scope for files and is just a container for a select amount of films added by an IP. Trailblazer101 (talk) 23:12, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Previously discussed at Commons:Categories for discussion/2024/06/Category:Disney controversies. As I said at the time, there's a whole mess of these. Omphalographer (talk) 04:39, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Unidentified Spathodea

There is only one species in the genus Spathodea, which makes this category pointless —  Junglenut | talk  07:53, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Pleading

too ambiguous Rathfelder (talk) 08:08, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

  •  Weak support Even though the legal term is at the base name on Wikipedia the term is use more generally and the threshold for primary topics is higher on Commons. Crouch, Swale (talk) 12:55, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
 Support - this should be converted to a disambiguation between e.g. Category:Pleading (legal) and... something else to represent the non-legal sense of "plead", as seen in e.g. File:Moses Pleading with Israel (crop).jpg or File:MOREmoji pwease.svg. (What would be a good way of wording that?) Omphalographer (talk) 21:49, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Exceptional tram routes

No indication of what is "exceptional " about these. Appears arbitrary. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:55, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

I’m having difficulty with the whole good faith thing here: Either you have no idea about public transit routes, and in which case why would you want to get involved in deletion of categories pertaining to it, or you do and therefore you know very well what an exceptional route is, but why then use the threat of category deletion to push some obscure point across… -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 15:10, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
You’d be satisfied with merging this with Category:Temporary tram routes? (It’s not the same, but better than uncategorizing the whole thing.) -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 15:17, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
I note your failure to not only assume good faith but also to avoid making spurious bogus allegations.
I'll be happy to discuss the category (since we are in "Categories for discussion", not "Categories for deletion") with anyone willing to adhere to such core requirements. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:37, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
Well, discuss, then: What don’t you understand about "Exceptional tram routes"? It’s only three words, and I presumed you know each of them quite well, surely better than I do. Why is this worth a discussion? Your o.p. is cryptic, and if it was signed by most anyone else, I’d have dismissed it as idle trolling. But it’s you, and you always have a point, and you’re often on the right side of things. So, what’s your point?
You say there’s «no indication of what is "exceptional " about these», but it’s like complaining the same about almost any other category like, say, Category:Ships built in 1990: Most of the subcats and files in this cat offer no proof or even mention about this date, except for the categorization itself, and that’s the usual way of doing things. Why target this "Category:Exceptional tram routes" with a unique demand for clarification?
  • And why target the cat itself for discussion, as you seemingly are complaining about lack of further clarification in each member of this cat?
  • Or do you mean that the cat page should include some explanatory text detailing what this cat is meant to cover? Then why not discuss it in the talk page, instead of going to the always confrontional and aggressive option of opening a CfD? (Which is primarily meant to decide about possible deletion, as you know very well: Normal discussions occur in talk pages.)
-- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 18:53, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Temperature diagrams

Most of these are not diagrams

  • should it be moved to Category:Temperature charts (or similar) – then some subcats and files would need to be moved out of the cat and the cat would miss currently many files or
  • should the charts be moved out of the category (a new separate cat may then be good) or
  • sth else

? Prototyperspective (talk) 18:13, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Chiffonnier dans l'art

à supprimer, pour cause de doublon avec Category:Ragpickers in art Frédéric-FR (talk) 14:11, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Coats of arms of order of St. Augustin

to Category:Coats of arms of the Order of Saint Augustine for consistency with Category:Order of Saint Augustine and other subcategories of Category:Coats of arms of Christian orders Fvasconcellos (t·c) 14:45, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Diagrams of iron and steel industry

Most of these are not diagrams

  • should it be moved to Category:Iron and steel industry charts (or similar) – then some subcats and files would need to be moved out of the cat and the cat would miss currently many files or
  • should the charts be moved out of the category (a new separate cat may then be good) or
  • sth else

? Prototyperspective (talk) 17:13, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Industry diagrams

Most of these are not diagrams

  • should it be moved to Category:Industry charts (or similar) – then some files would need to be moved out of the cat and the cat would miss currently many files or
  • should the charts be moved out of the category (a new separate cat may then be good) or
  • sth else

? Prototyperspective (talk) 17:14, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Audio files of organ music by J.S. Bach

doppelt, es gibt auch Audio files of organ music by Johann Sebastian Bach, sollte zzusammengeführt werden Subbass1 (talk) 17:27, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Climate change diagrams

Most of these are not diagrams

? Prototyperspective (talk) 18:05, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Video games by name

Should this not be video games by title? Trade (talk) 22:41, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Puzzle shooters

is this even a real genre? Nothing on Wikidata Trade (talk) 23:20, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

 Delete. What makes a video game genre "real", anyway? It's not as though there's any final authority on the matter. But this one seems like it's simply the intersection of Category:Puzzle video games and Category:First-person shooters; I'm not convinced we need a subcategory for this. Omphalographer (talk) 18:52, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
 Delete Sources are what make a genre real enough (although they definitely disagree often). The category contains two games, The Ball and Portal − which Glitchwave define as “First-person puzzler”. Meanwhile, googling returned for example this use of the term, but all of these are more what Glitchwave calls “Aim and shoot puzzle”. So I agree with Omphalographer that here it seems to be the intersection of puzzle and shooters, and I don’t think we need that. Jean-Fred (talk) 09:39, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
  • I think "Puzzle shooters by name" should be deleted, and those two games moved to this larger category. It's fine otherwise, I think. ~Mable (chat) 20:04, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Lipovka (Ardatov District)

I made this category by mistake Leokand (talk) 15:19, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Historical documents of Poland

Empty category Rathfelder (talk) 16:41, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Electrical generators with other machine

Delete - nonsense cat. A pointlessly arbitrary grouping with no real-world significance. Andy Dingley (talk) 21:40, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

As the 3 subcats demonstrate, an electrical generator is well frequently grouped with certains types of other machine. See also Category:Bicycles with other subjects. Taylor 49 (talk) 12:01, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
  • A generator is a device for turning mechanical movement into electricity. It is implicit in the concept that they will be driven by something. We don't need this additional layer to imply some special grouping for these (and only these three?) cases. What is an 'axle-driven generator' ? A basic generator connected by a belt drive? Or some novel new machine, using the inherent geometry of railway axles (such things do get invented and become recognisable groups). But in the case here, clearly both ends of the design spectrum are being lumped in. This extra layer of categorisation adds nothing, and if it isn't applied to all generators, then it's misleading as it implies that the ones which are listed here are somehow special cases. Andy Dingley (talk) 12:12, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Manor House and Rhodes House, Sleaford

Duplicate category of Category:Manor House, Rhodes House, Wall and Gate Piers to Cobbled Yard and Garden Wall to No 33; it is unused Noswall59 (talk) 09:11, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

 Keep, merge Category:Manor House, Rhodes House, Wall and Gate Piers to Cobbled Yard and Garden Wall to No 33 to it, so as to match d:Q17549231
The verbose name derives from the Heritage England listing: . That is typical. They often use convoluted names to clarify the scope of a listing. We have no need to do the same and can state a clear title and a more expansive scope as two separate properties in our description. Andy Dingley (talk) 09:32, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Santos v Ceará, 13 May 2025

Wrong name, created by me incorrectly. BrazilianDude70 (talk) 13:17, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Kings Reach

Delete - the term is too broad in terms of content, there are now bridge to bridge categories: from Vauxhall to Southwark Bridges. Adam37 (talk) 21:12, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

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Empty categories

listing of categories
After deleting files that are not in the public domain, these categories are empty. Gzen92 (talk) 07:16, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Deleted: per nomination. --Rosenzweig τ 14:29, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

Empty categories 2

Commons:Deletion requests/empty categories, list 2

This seems to be the same case as above. All those 60 empty categories are in the Category:Manuscripts from Gallica and they have the same type as those above. And it seems that they were created automatically by bot once. They should all be deleted now they are empty. —176.1.8.244 21:55, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Frescos in Cappella degli Scrovegni (Padua) - Apse by Anonymous

It's identical with its parent cat 'apse' MenkinAlRire (talk) 12:46, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Of course there are some identical files, but they differ in both directions, which one can easily see, for example the last 8 files of the parent cat concerning sculptures are not included in this cat. On the other hand files concerning only the frescos in the apse like e.g. File:Padova Cappella degli Scrovegni Innen Chorfresken 3.jpg are not included in the parent cat. Both categories concerning different subjects and artist's must be kept--Oursana (talk) 13:21, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Raining

Unclear what the difference to Category:Rain should be. GPSLeo (talk) 14:29, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Merge tree into Category:Rain (and subcats), per nom. — hike395 (talk) 04:14, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Films by actor

This does not feel like an meaningful nor helpful way to categorize films. This is Wikimedia Commons, not Wikidata. We are not supposed to list every single person who have ever appeared in a film Trade (talk) 22:19, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Photographs by Robert F. Sargent

More research needs to be done to find all of Robert Sargent's credited WWII photography. MrPeanut05 (talk) 02:06, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

So what are you hoping will happen here? Deletion of the category and all content? Andy Dingley (talk) 03:17, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Efteling Hotel

The name of this hotel changed recently, because of the new Efteling Grand Hotel (see https://www.efteling.com/nl/pers/efteling-wonder-hotel-nieuwe-naam-van-iconisch-efteling-hotel/). S. Perquin (talk) 08:47, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

  •  Keep The category was at this title from 2012 until you renamed it, per COM:REDCAT the part starting with "Don't delete categories that" it should probably be kept as a redirect. Crouch, Swale (talk) 13:35, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Interior of Efteling Hotel

The name of this hotel changed recently, because of the new Efteling Grand Hotel (see https://www.efteling.com/nl/pers/efteling-wonder-hotel-nieuwe-naam-van-iconisch-efteling-hotel/). S. Perquin (talk) 08:48, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Albumen prints of Germany in the Rijksmuseum Amsterdam

Unused category - by sub-technique by location - that would just duplicate or move appr. 50% of "Photographs_of [country]_in_the_Rijksmuseum_Amsterdam. Peli (talk) 12:19, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Albumen prints in the Rijksmuseum Amsterdam by country of origin

Albumen prints are sorted by collection only. They are already well sorted as Photographs by county by museum. Peli (talk) 12:25, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

the great number of files > 26.000 makes the parent cat Albumen prints in the Rijksmuseum Amsterdam useless, we therefore must create subcats--Oursana (talk) 13:03, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
It is too hard to define (and to read out batches of this) 'country of origine' for travel albums by photographer X from country Y of the countries A,B & C, published in country N. The subcategorisation of the flatlist is already in progress by putting them in separate large categories like stereo cards, cartes de visite, cabinet cards and smaller like travel and family albums. All of them already should be in photographs by century and photographs by country or city (in museum X in A). Peli (talk) 14:52, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:19th-century albumen prints in the Rijksmuseum Amsterdam

Almost all albumen prints are from the 19th century. They are already categorised by date as " 19th-century photographs by museum " It would mean a move of appr 25k distributed files to fill this cat with no omissions. Peli (talk) 12:29, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:19th-century portrait albumen prints in the Rijksmuseum Amsterdam

unworked category where there would be over 20k candidates for it Peli (talk) 12:36, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Georgian Orthodox churches in Georgia

Rename to "Church buildings of the Georgian Orthodox Church in Georgia". Per all other members of the parent category of Category:Church buildings of the Georgian Orthodox Church by country. Not all church buildings of the Georgian Orthodox Church are located in Georgia. Also, there are other Category:Eastern Orthodox church buildings in Georgia (country) that are not members of the Georgian Orthodox Church. Also, there are Category:Buildings of the Georgian Orthodox Church that are not church buildings. Laurel Lodged (talk) 15:38, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

I see no reason not to do this. Not sure I love the proposed naming pattern, but it's what we have for all parallel categories. - Jmabel ! talk 17:56, 15 May 2025 (UTC)