Commons:Categories for discussion/2023/08

Category:Stamps of Botswana by year

This and the sub categories were created by @אוריאל כ: . Apparently the subcategories either contain a single file or a single category containing a single file, which is just way over categorization and doesn't help anyone to find the images they are looking for. Also, all the sub-categories contain "by year" navigational templates that are full of dead links, which isn't helpful either. so I'd like to resolve it by up-merging most, if not all, of the files into "by decade" categories so there isn't the over categorization or the needless problems that come along with it anymore like "by years" navigational templates that are full of nothing but dead links. I tried to discuss it on the users talk page but unfortunately they were against using "by decade" categories for some reason that I'm still not clear on. I think that's the best way to categorize the files though, but I'd appreciate other opinions since אוריאל כ disagreed. Adamant1 (talk) 15:48, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Category:Agricultural works by country

In my opinion, the categories here are wrong at most countries, because

  • agricultural activities (like irrigation, harvest, sowing, plowing, ...)

are not

Greets -- Triple C 85 | User talk | 21:14, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

@Микола Василечко: I recognize Commons Administrator @AnRo0002: just started to check and move entries from Agricultural works to Agriculture. Maybe there are some works left. Or just empty categories. Greets -- Triple C 85 | User talk |
Files. --Микола Василечко (talk) 15:22, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
Sounds like this has been resolved, unless I am missing something? Josh (talk) 20:21, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Category:Satellite pictures of 2023 Pacific typhoons

Redundant. Category full of typhoon pictures that take time to find, while you can go to the typhoon season, click a typhoon category, and browse for your picture, which is much easier. FooBarBaz (talk) 04:18, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

OK, feel free to request it for deletion if it causes trouble, I have no objection. vip (talk) 13:03, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Category:Cosplay of Mystery, Inc.

The cast o the series is the same as the franchise as a whole. Redundant Trade (talk) 19:24, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Category:Google offices in New York City

Duplicate: Category:Google New York office Xeror (talk) 10:34, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Personal preference to Keep or Move to Category:Google buildings in New York City, as there are multiple Google buildings and offices in the city. The Google New York office category originally referred to the office and facilities within the 111 Eighth Avenue building‎. However, Google's website currently refers to the "Google New York office" as two campuses across the three buildings in the category (111 Eighth Avenue, Chelsea Market, St. John's Terminal). Tdorante10 (talk) 17:20, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Category:Rua Santa Cruz, 37-A

I suspect this should be merged to Category:Largo de São Bento, 37-A, which has a wikidata item. Jmabel ! talk 21:06, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Category:Yuppies

They are not a style. No need for one sucking image. 186.172.233.204 12:32, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Should this be changed to Category:Yuppies (text)? There are multiple images now. -- Auntof6 (talk) 02:57, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Category:Disabled climbing

Move to paraclimbing MaligneRange (talk) 10:17, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

 Comment en:Paraclimbing says that

Paraclimbing is competitive climbing for disabled athletes.

and

Sports classification for competitions differentiates paraclimbing from adaptive climbing in general.

(my emphasis). That seems to suggest that any form of recreational climbing would not be considered paraclimbing in the strict sense and a more general parent Category:Adaptive climbing would be better suited as a direct replacement for the current Category:Disabled climbing, with Category:Paraclimbing being a subcategory for its competitive aspects. No source were provided for that, though ... El Grafo (talk) 09:55, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
 Support your suggestion sounds much more reasonable than just merging. Mikinisk (talk) 18:06, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

Category:2021 January photographs by Designermadsen

It should be January 2021 and not 2021 January. 191.126.191.229 02:06, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

The current name matches the naming of many other categories. We should change all or none. @Designermadsen: pinging you for your input. -- Auntof6 (talk) 03:46, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
Also, should these be defined as user categories? -- Auntof6 (talk) 03:47, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
I guess they should, but can we define it as @Designermadsen's user cat even without their consent/knowledge? This user has a small history of not replying to pings after all. Mikinisk (talk) 18:19, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

Category:Deeds of Aphrodite

The only two entries here, Category:Cupid and Psyche and Category:Eos, are not deeds of Aphrodite.

If this is deleted:

--Auntof6 (talk) 07:38, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Tentatively agree, unless someone can show that Auntof6 is missing something here. - Jmabel ! talk 15:03, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
@Allforrous: I notice that you are populating the category, but I don't think the things being added are deeds, either. Can you explain the intent of this category? --Auntof6 (talk) 23:51, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
No, he can't. He just populates them when you open to discussion his categories. Anything serves. A soup bowl may be work of Aphrodite. He was there, observing her when she created the earthenware bowl. However, if you complain about him he says he's being harassed because he can't speak English. For some reason he never asks himself "why do I insist on making more and more new categories in a language I certainly do not know good enough, and so many people criticize me"... Am I wrong? 186.174.165.203 16:35, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Category:Asclepius in mythology

Since Asclepius is a mythological character, most things about him are "in mythology", so I don't see the need for this category. It currently contains only one entry, Category:Chiron, which could just be moved up to Category:Asclepius alongside some categories for other mythological characters. Auntof6 (talk) 07:39, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Concur with Auntof6. - Jmabel ! talk 15:02, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
I see that more entries have been added to this category, but the added entries are for more mythological characters and an constellation. These don't seem to make a case for keeping this category. --Auntof6 (talk) 08:10, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
Read the above discussion please. 186.174.165.203 18:24, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Category:Maps showing the history of countries by period

Hi, this category is for maps showing history, and then supposed to be split into periods for each country.

However, each country has its own subcategories here:

  • "...under Ottoman Empire‎" <> "...under Ottoman rule" - (that gives a rough time period, okay...)
  • "...in modern times" <> "...in the early modern period‎" - (everything later than "medieval" qualifies? Wait, Ottomans weren't modern???)
  • "...the Habsburg period in the history of..." - again a rough timeframe... but yeah: including or excluding WW1? Why aren't the Habsburgs "modern"?
  • "...(1850–1918)‎" <> "...(16th-19th century)‎" "...(before 400‎)" - (yeah okay, this is quantifiable)
  • "...in the Árpád age‎" <> "...(Piasts)‎" <> "...(Jagiellons)‎" - (as if everyone knows right away when Arpad and the Piasts ruled)
  • "...in the Late Middle Ages‎" - (which is... when? Without consulting WP, approximately 1350-1500?) Or a century earlier? Did the LMA end everywhere at the same time?


--> My proposal is to go by century here. That enables everyone to contribute without first checking the Wikipedia for reference timeframes.

We already have "Maps of 5th/9th/12th/17th-century England/Italy/France/Germany/Spain" for example, although the respective parent categories are not all that great yet, either. Enyavar (talk) 13:14, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

@Enyavar: I'm not sure I understand your suggestion. Do you want to change this category, or its subcategories? -- Themightyquill (talk) 19:28, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
First the subcategories, country by country. Then once we have established "Maps of ??th-century <country>" as subcategory of "Maps of the history of <country>" and "Maps showing ??th-century history", the "showing-by-period" category in itself would be superfluous. Likely because we'd have "by century". (But this is not an urgent project of mine.) --Enyavar (talk) 19:53, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
@Enyavar: Do you also want to delete everything in Category:History by period by country? --Themightyquill (talk)
Um, this is not a deletion discussion? Reworking/restructuring does not mean "just delete everything". But yes, for example, "Serbia by period" has "History of modern Serbia" as a subcategory, which is at least confusing because the Ottoman period includes the early modern, and the Habsburg rule is firmly in the modern period. That means that "modern Serbia" is randomly restricted to "past 1918", everything before is pre-modern? Contrasting, "History of Argentina" has subcategories defined by years (no overlapping definitions) and has no maps sorted by period anway. And "History of Ethiopia by period" just has "Ethiopia by century/decade/year" as subsets, which means nobody has to look up which period was when - that is great. Really, into which period would you instinctively sort a medieval Polish artifact dated to, say 1145? --Enyavar (talk) 07:49, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Category:Fuldaer Bildstock

Unnötige Kategorie jenseits der Namenskonventionen, außerdem steht kein einziger dieser Bildstöcke in Fulda. GerritR (talk) 18:04, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Offenbar gibt es da eine Baustelle auf der Wikipedia, ich lass daher die Sache offen und werde auch erstmal diese Kategorie nicht weiter von den betroffenen Dateien entfernen, vielleicht wird ja ein noch Schuh draus. Es scheint jedenfalls, als sei der Begriff "Fuldaer Bildstock" mehr als eine Theoriefindung, sondern hat Anklang in der Literatur. Link zur Baustelle: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Monandowitsch/Fuldaer_Bildstock
GerritR (talk) 19:01, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
Hallo GerritR,
ich beschäftige mich derzeit in der deutschsprachigen Wikipedia mit den verschiedenen Bildstocktypen der Bildstocklandschaft Franken. Im Zuge dieses Projekts entstanden bereits mehrere Artikel, zu denen auch jeweils eine Commons-Kategorie aufgemacht wurde. Der Artikel zum Fuldaer Bildstock soll heute noch veröffentlicht werden. Es handelt sich um einen in der Literatur etablierten Bildstocktyp, weshalb ich auch die zugehörige Commons-Kategorie für sinnvoll halte. --Monandowitsch (talk) 10:24, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

Category:Monument départemental des Hautes-Alpes FNACA des Hautes-Alpes (Chorges)

Monument architectural récent (2000), a priori protégé par le droit d'auteur(s) Fr.Latreille (talk) 21:39, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Category:Quranic Sura's verse by verse Usmani Script

Any difference from the parent category? 186.174.89.102 18:01, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Category:Hyperborea 2016 Ice sculpture in Petrozavodsk

I can't see any ice sculptures in these pictures, so the category name is misleading. I propose a merge back into the parent category, and rename that one into "Hyperborea (Petrozavodsk festival)" Enyavar (talk) 20:02, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

Category:Befreiungskriege

This is a major category about a major European war that was not limited to Germany, so the category should bear an English name. I was astounded to find "Befreiungskriege" the English termin is either "German Campaign of 1913" (en-WP) or "(German) Liberation War(s) of 1813-1815" (alt-name in en-WP) or possibly "War of the Sixth Coalition" (we have that category already, and the Liberation Wars overlap with 6th+7th Coalition, so probably not that) --Enyavar (talk) 20:57, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

Category:Reliefs of Buddhas

How did this relatively recent category come to replace the longstanding Category:Reliefs of the Buddha. I didn't see any discussion. To the best of my knowledgeu there is, according to tradition, one Buddha, Sihddhartha Gautama, and these are all (in theory) statues of that individual. "Buddhas" seems entirely wrong to me here. But feel free to "enlighten" me on the matter. Jmabel ! talk 01:31, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

There are, in fact, many Buddhas. Siddhartha Gautama, also known as Shakyamuni, was the historical founder of Buddhism. You can refer to Category:Buddhas by name for a look at some other Buddhas who are traditionally recognized, though the list is far from exhaustive. Invokingvajras | talk 01:50, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
@Invokingvajras: Then surely the category should not have been merged, since there is no question what individual is known in English as the Buddha, and all of these statues were of him. - 14:24, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
Much of the content in "~of the Buddha" categories included images of other Buddhas. This is a good opportunity to clarify. As OP indicated, there is still confusion about "who's who" for those who don't really know about Buddhism. - 4:23, 20 Aug 2023 (UTC)
@Invokingvajras: So imaginably a subcat. But it should not have become a redirect, and certainly this should not have been changed without discussion. - Jmabel ! talk 19:42, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

Category:Deeds of Artemis

None of the items in this category is a deed; all the items (at the time I write this) are mythological characters. Auntof6 (talk) 08:05, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

You're right. Another meaningless category. Delete it. 186.174.165.203 15:02, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Category:Dionysus in mythology

Similar to the CFD for Category:Asclepius, since Dionysus is a mythological character, most things about him are "in mythology", so I don't see the need for this category. It currently contains some categories for mythological figures and a the categories "Myths about Dionysos" and "Dionysos as a child". These could just be moved under Category:Dionysos. Auntof6 (talk) 08:13, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Of course, delete it. It is a stupid categorization. 186.174.165.203 15:00, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Category:Deeds of Zeus

Yet another one. The things in this category (at the time I write this) are mostly mythological characters, not deeds. Auntof6 (talk) 20:57, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

  • Delete, upcat all files; same for all the other similar categories. - Jmabel ! talk 00:02, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
    It is User:Allforrous again, (s)he is making categories just because they are in EN-WP, apparently now for mythological characters. My question is: How can (s)he be stopped? I reported this account several times, see for instance Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems/Archive 106#Again: User:Allforrous, but (s)he did not learn anything from them. The same disruptive actions keep going on. I think we can spend our time better than correcting these actions over and over again. JopkeB (talk) 03:15, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
    I've asked Allforrous to explain their intent for these, but have gotten no reply. -- Auntof6 (talk) 01:37, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
  •  Agree The categories of mythological characters should belong to reasonable sub-categories. Zeus, in Greek mithology, was participating everywhere, but it makes no sense to have categories for files where he is not represented. --Ruthven (msg) 06:52, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

Category:BKM-321

Номинирую данную категорию для обсуждения: на Викискладе уже есть категория AKSM-321, для троллейбусов модели 321 производства Белкоммунмаш. Предлагаю не удалять категорию BKM-321, а создать перенаправление на категорию AKSM-321. I nominate this category for discussion: there is already the AKSM-321 category on Wikimedia Commons, for trolleybuses model 321, designed and built by Belkommunmash. I suggest creating a redirect. ATI1999 (talk) 09:27, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

Category:BKM-201

Номинирую данную категорию для обсуждения: на Викискладе уже есть категория AKSM-201, для троллейбусов модели 201 производства Белкоммунмаш. Предлагаю не удалять категорию BKM-201, а создать перенаправление на категорию AKSM-201. Уже имеющиеся фотографии троллейбусов, размещённые здесь, предлагаю разместить в подкатегориях AKSM-201. I nominate this category for discussion: there is already the AKSM-201 category on Wikimedia Commons, for trolleybuses model 201, designed and built by Belkommunmash. I suggest creating a redirect. I also suggest placing the existing photos of trolleybuses posted here in the subcategories of AKSM-201. ATI1999 (talk) 09:31, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

Category:Zhang Shiming

See Category:Zhang Junheng 源義信 (talk) 02:50, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

@源義信: You haven't said why this needs discussion. -- Auntof6 (talk) 04:34, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
Sorry, what I wanted to say is that this category had been replaced by Category:Zhang Junheng, because Zhang Junheng was Zhang Shiming's full name while the latter was his courtesy name. I didn't know how to request speedy deletion at that time. 源義信 (talk) 05:00, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

Category:7 wonders of karnataka

There doesn't seem to be an official, meaningful designation for seven wonders of Karnataka. An Internet search for this term results only in promotional sites, such as travel sites. Auntof6 (talk) 09:20, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Borrar. "karnataka" no existe. 186.172.46.189 15:22, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
Category:Karnataka exists. It is one of the states of India. -- Auntof6 (talk) 19:59, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 Delete not commons cat tree's purpose to put them together even if the phrase might exist. RZuo (talk) 14:33, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Category:Ethnic and religious slurs

i suggest separating ethnic and religious slurs into two cats. see Category:Prejudice and discrimination by type for comparison. RZuo (talk) 14:19, 31 August 2023 (UTC)