Category:Images with rulers to indicate scale

I'm unsure of how to structure the subcategories of this one for diffusion. I've already created the obviously selective subcategory Cat:Images of electronic components with rulers to indicate scale‎, but I'm trying to figure out the right balance of selectivity and simplicity for the rest.

Some potential subcategories that stand out are Cat:Pistol and rifle cartridges, Cat:Ammunition, and Cat:Images from museums. However, there is much overlap between these three. To what extent should the new hierarchy mirror (and take the name of) the existing categories that form their intersections?

Other themes seem to be cables, wires, ropes, and consumer electronics. Note: there are several images of human penises in the category; in keeping with the principle of least surprise, categories representing the intersection with the hierarchy at Cat:Human penis size measurement are probably also needed.  — wqnvlz (talk · contribs) 07:02, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

	Category:Images with rulers to indicate scale	Move to/Rename as	Category:Rulers indicating scale
	Category:images of coins with rulers to indicate scale	Move to/Rename as	Category:coins with rulers indicating scale
	Category:images of fish with rulers to indicate scale	Move to/Rename as	Category:fish with rulers indicating scale
	Category:images of electronic components with rulers to indicate scale	Move to/Rename as	Category:electronic components with rulers indicating scale
	Category:images of plants with rulers to indicate scale	Move to/Rename as	Category:plants with rulers indicating scale
	The 'images of' part of the title is rather superfluous. As for sub-cats, just sort by main subject (fish, ammunitions, etc.) and create new cats as appropriate. Any such subject that has more than a couple of images in the main cat should work for a sub-cat.
	Josh (talk) 07:39, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

@Wqnvlz: Any objection to the above proposal, or can we close this and proceed? Josh (talk) 19:50, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

I support these proposed changes - not commenting on categories I'm unfamiliar with, but the use of "images" seems superfluous indeed and organisms seem like a place where diffusion would be pretty clear along taxonomic lines, similar to the ones found in museum categories like Category:Nature in Auckland Museum. I think it can be closed for now, as no one voiced opposition for several months since @Wqnvlz: created this. I've been waiting for the discussion closure to diffuse organisms, and wanted to point out there's tens of thousands of herbarium specimens photographed with rulers that aren't currently in here. YuriNikolai (talk) 21:33, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Update - applied proposed category renames to all categories inside "Images with rulers to indicate scale", as no one opposed this and a few more months have passed. I'd like to note the problem of names with superfluous parts goes a few steps up, for example Category:Images with objects to indicate scale has a lot of subcats, and rulers are just one of them - not sure if I should BOLD move all of them or start an equal discussion one level up, even though this seems like an open and close thing for me. YuriNikolai (talk) 19:57, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Category:Baghniq, Araqelots village

Obvious name. Should be "Bath" instead of "Baghniq", that means bath (բաղնիք) in Armenian, mistakely written in Latin script. Kareyac (talk) 10:55, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

 Question @Kareyac: Is բաղնիք the proper name for this place, or is it just a bath in Araqelots? Josh (talk) 07:47, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

@Joshbaumgartner: It‘s just a room, a place for washing. Not proper name. In heritage list labeled as բաղնիք, like the other nameless items: wall, belfry, mill. - Kareyac (talk) 08:23, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

@Kareyac: Thanks for the clarification, see proposal below:

	Category:Baghniq, Araqelots village	Move to/Rename as	Category:Baths in Araqelots village, Acharkut
	Intersection category, per Universality principle should reflect parent categories Category:Baths in Armenia and Category:Araqelots village, Acharkut. As a non-proper noun, English should be used, and even if there may be only one bath in this village that we currently have media of, plural is appropriate for non-proper nouns.
	Josh (talk) 01:57, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

 Support. Kareyac (talk) 15:56, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

Category:Birds of California in water

also: Category:Birds of California in flight

I think this category should be deleted. It feels less useful than categorizing the files by taxon. I get wanting to see birds of California, or birds in water, but who is looking up birds of California in water? It's a category that has ballooned in size, since it covers a very large possible range of files, and trying to break it up into smaller chunks would be a lot of extra work. Boylarva99 (talk) 16:01, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

 Weak keep  Keep This seems like a valid intersection between Category:Birds of California and Category:Birds in water. There are certainly enough files to justify its presence. I get that it is a lot of files in one place to manage, but wouldn't upmerging to the parents make that situation even worse? Josh (talk) 09:00, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

 Delete I only found this category by accident. Should there also be Category:Birds of California in air, Category:Birds of California on land, Category:Birds of California in air, Category:Birds of California in trees, etc.? Krok6kola (talk) 14:24, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

@Krok6kola: If they meet the same criteria that I outlined above, then I do not see why they should not exist, but what do they have to do with the price of tea in China, anyway? Josh (talk) 00:17, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

I don't see that the two are a relevant intersection. We have Category:People of Europe and Category:People in water but I don't think that justifies Category:People of Europe in water. -- Themightyquill (talk) 09:45, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

@Themightyquill: That is a fair enough point. I guess what I'm getting at is that the justification seems to rely too much on personal opinion regarding the utility of any particular intersection. Those are valid opinions, but perhaps we would be better served by developing a more objective baseline for what justifies an intersection category. That's probably beyond the scope of this CfD but I do see the theme recurring in a lot of discussions. As for this one, there are a few specific tangible reasons I oppose deletion. First, as stated by @Boylarva99: , the category has a large number of files, which is an indication that at least someone finds there is some utility in this categorization. The OP also states that sub-categorizing it would take a lot of work. This work is not obligatory--it can be done by those who wish to in time--but deleting the category and upmerging into Category:Birds of California and Category:Birds in water would just move the bulk up into two categories and could potentially create a large number of overcat situations that would need to be fixed immediately, thus making the very work the OP is concerned about much more urgent and potentially doubling the volume of such work. The OP states they feel categorization by taxon would be more useful. I think that makes sense, but categorization is not exclusive to one or the other--we can categorize by both. Meanwhile, keeping the category does not appear to create any urgent problems. If it is not useful to a given user, there is no obligation on them to use it. For those reasons, deletion is more problematic than retention. Josh (talk) 22:04, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

@Joshbaumgartner: Your points are valid, and I think we should be more careful about deleting the hard work of others. On the other hand, this category was created in 2014 and it hasn't been replicated enough to justify Category:Birds in water by country let alone Category:Birds of the United States in water by state. I didn't look at every file, but of three random ones I clicked on, all were added to this category in 2014 by the category creator. - Themightyquill (talk) 06:01, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

@Themightyquill: I don't disagree with that analysis. While I would not personally seek deletion of this one, I am okay if the rest of the team thinks it is warranted and not run afoul of the hazards I mentioned. I would like to see some better guidelines for these sorts of categories, but that is a discussion for a different place. I've changed my comment above to only a weak keep, so it shouldn't stand in the way of a consensus. Josh (talk) 10:15, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

 Comment Commons:Categories for discussion/2022/04/Category:Birds of California in flight has been subsumed into this discussion. Josh (talk) 22:18, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Category:Mk 20 Sniper Support Rifle

Should be renamed to "FN SCAR-H PR/TPR" to cover non-USSOCOM rifles Dvaderv2 (talk) 23:44, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

 Comment Subsuming Commons:Categories for discussion/2022/04/Category:People with Mk 20 Sniper Support Rifle ("Should be renamed to "People with FN SCAR-H PR/TPR" to cover non-USSOCOM rifles Dvaderv2 (talk) 23:44, 9 April 2022 (UTC)") into this discussion. Josh (talk) 00:31, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

 Question @Dvaderv2: Is there any difference between the "Mk 20 Sniper Support Rifle" and the "FN SCAR-H TPR", or is the former merely the US designation for the latter? Josh (talk) 00:43, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

@Josh: I'm not 100% sure. I do know that the Mk 20 is semi-automatic only whereas the PR and TPR are or were offered in both semi-auto and select-fire configurations. Also, the Mk 20 and the TPR are visually similar if not indeed identical apart from the flash hider.

Having looked at FN's main site (offering the PR and TPR) and American site (offering the Mk 20), there are a few specification differences between the Mk 20 and the TPR 20" (the most directly comparable PR/TPR variant) but they do seem to be minor (Overall length of 40.5" to 42.5" for the Mk 20 vs. 41" to 42.72" for the TPR, weight of 10.69 lb. for the Mk 20 vs. ±11.02 lb for the TPR). Dvaderv2 (talk) 10:18, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

@Dvaderv2: Thanks for that information! It would seem we have three different items here then, so I would recommend the following:

1.  Keep Category:Mk 20 Sniper Support Rifle for files actually depicting the US-designated Mk 20 version of the TPR. This would include any that find their way into non-US hands.
2. Create Category:FN SCAR-H PR if and when we have files depicting the PR version.
3. Create Category:FN SCAR-H TPR if and when we have files depicting the TPR version. Category:Mk 20 Sniper Support Rifle can be a child category of this one, as Mk 20s are a sub-set of TPRs.

I do not see a particular reason to have an umbrella category for PR/TPR, each of them can just live under Category:FN SCAR-H, so ultimately:

• Category:FN SCAR-H
  • Category:FN SCAR-H PR
  • Category:FN SCAR-H TPR
    • Category:Mk 20 Sniper Support Rifle

Some brief explanation in the category header might also be helpful. Josh (talk) 23:22, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

@Josh: Except that FN clearly regard the PR and TPR as being sufficiently related to one another to offer them in the one product entry/listing; I certainly haven't seen anything to suggest that there are any differences between the two rifles other than buttstock design. As for the Mk 20, what you're proposing makes sense, but as something that FN America intended primarily for USSOCOM procurement, the only real user of the Mk 20 is... USSOCOM. Now, there may end up being some non-US examples out there due to FMS and other initiatives, but without explicit identification of such rifles as being Mk 20s they wouldn't be readily distinguishable from the PR/TPR at a glance, particularly if the vagaries of photographic angles and/or quality meant that markings couldn't be easily made out or indeed couldn't be made out at all.Dvaderv2 (talk) 00:14, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

@Dvaderv2: Understood, though it is enough of a difference for FN to give them two separate designations. It is kind of a moot point if we don't have any files depicting these. As for Mk 20 in non-US hands, I'm referring to not only FMS but to captured examples and other such (I wouldn't be shocked to see them appear in Ukraine, for example). I am not finding any SCAR-H offerings that are not PR or TPR types, do we have files of any such examples? Josh (talk) 19:42, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Category:Demonstrations and protests relating to environmental issues by country

There are two types of name in this category. Which name should we use? "related to/against" "environmental issues/problems" A1Cafel (talk) 03:46, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

@A1Cafel: I don’t understand. Can you clarify what you think the problem is? — Cheers, JackLee ^–talk– 04:13, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

@Jacklee: I wish to harmonize the category names. The subcategories have two differences: Demonstrations and protests "related to/against" environmental "issues/problems" As the creaor of this category, which name do you perfer? --A1Cafel (talk) 06:12, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

@A1Cafel and Jacklee: Strictly speaking, the set "related to...issues" would be a parent of the set "against...problems", as 'against' is a type of 'relationship' and 'problems' are a type of 'issue'. Thus I would put Category:Demonstrations and protests against environmental problems in Italy under Category:Demonstrations and protests relating to environmental issues in Italy. If they are to be merged, then Category:Demonstrations and protests relating to environmental issues in Italy is the most comprehensive category and so should be the retained one. Josh (talk) 01:29, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

I agree. I think the parent category should use “relating to”. The “against” category (and “in favour of”, or whatever wording we are using) should be a subcategory. As for “issues” or “problems”, I guess I prefer “issues” as it’s more neutral. However, I’m not sure if it is safe to decide this for all categories here without looking at some examples, because it might be that in some cases “problems” is more appropriate. — Cheers, JackLee ^–talk– 08:20, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Category:Nude by Lupus in Saxonia

Unclear why this is important information + half the files are incorrectly placed in this category (not nude) Dronebogus (talk) 07:36, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Category:Signs of Solidarity and Friendship (Russo-Ukrainian War)

Non-educational category— Commons is not an indiscriminate collection of antiwar propaganda; redundant to Category:Action of solidarity with Ukraine (all subcats should be deleted too) Dronebogus (talk) 07:41, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

 Neutral to very  Weak delete. As far as I see not all files in the category are non-educational. If you think some files are potentially out of project scope, please start a DR on those files. However, this cat could be a redundant. --A1Cafel (talk) 05:36, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

 Keep In my opinion signs of solidarity with Ukraine are a widespread phenomenon in various countries and are the main topic of thousands of images. Therefore it must be included in the category tree. ~Cybularny ^Speak? 11:43, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

 Neutral I'm neutral on this but if the category is kept it should at least have the whole "and" thing removed since we don't normally allow for categories that encompass two different concepts and they aren't the same thing. Probably I'd just axe the word "friendship." --Adamant1 (talk) 01:45, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

• This seems to be an unclosed disccusion from 2022. Keep categorizing per above, but some sort of parent harmonization with categories like Category:Support of Israel during 2023 Israel–Hamas war would be useful, as present name is hard to locate and not well intertwined when compared to the lather. Respublik (talk) 13:38, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

  I also agree with axing of the "and Friendship" part Respublik (talk) 13:41, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

• like Cybularny, the amount of solidarity shown after Russia invaded had cultural impact in countries like Poland (where I happened to live in). If showing solidarity to an illegaly invaded country is 'anti-war propaganda', then please nominate every single propaganda category tree. Plus what stops you from doing the same, but with Russian solidarity? Waiting... Oeleau (talk) 17:16, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

Category:1955 coup d'état in Argentina (Revolución Libertadora)

The category should be just "Revolución Libertadora", as it is a period of time that already has an unique name. Year, place and type of event, all that be included in the description and/or infox and the parent categories. There's no need for this overcomplicated long name. Cambalachero (talk) 18:31, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Category:Stamps of the Soviet Union, 1923, all stamps

The name of this category is super obtuse and it's purpose doesn't make any sense. There's a lot of stamps and other things in here, like covers and block stamps, that don't follow the CPA Catalogue order. So I'd like to up-merge this and other categories with the phrase "all stamps" in them to the existing "Stamps of the Soviet Union, X year" categories. Maybe stamps of the Soviet Union can be ordered by their catalogue number in a gallery or something, but this isn't the way to do it. A stamps number in some random catalog isn't meaningful anyway, which is why no other category for stamps is organized this way. Having one countries stamps organized by catalog number is just nonsensical. More so because the whole scheme gets screwed up when a file that doesn't follow the order of the catalog numbers gets put in the category. Plus it makes it impossible to put anything in a sub category because doing so will just create random gaps in how the files are organized. Adamant1 (talk) 10:23, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

• Название этой категории синхронизировано с названиями окружающих ее категорий и поэтому является оптимальным. Эта категория создана для: 1) учета почтовых марок СССР 1923 года для загрузки недостающих марок; 2) для поиска нужной марки СССР 1923 года. Важно, что эта категория является подкатегорией упомянутой вами категории "Stamps of the Soviet Union, 1923", в которой могут находиться другие категории, в данном случае "1th standard issue of Soviet Union stamp series‎" и "First USSR stamps". Если категория "Stamps of the Soviet Union, 1923, all stamps" будет отсутствовать, то почтовые марки 1923 года окажутся раздробленными по указанным и аналогичным категориям в общем случае. Марки одного года окажутся раздробленными по правилу Склада, по которому загруженный файл не может ОДНОВРЕМЕННО находиться в директории и ее поддиректории. В результате: 1) будет непонятно, загружены ли все марки данного года 2) возникнут проблемы с поиском нужным марок конкретного года. Эта СИСТЕМА КАТЕГОРИЙ успешно работает много лет, я с ней активно работаю, и менять ее не следует. Matsievsky (talk) 10:53, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

• I'm not sure what you mean by "this category is synchronized with the names of the surrounding categories", but I said I'd like to up-merge all the categories with the words "all stamps" in them and "Category:Stamps of the Soviet Union, 1923" is linked to the other Stamps of the Soviet Union by year categories. So the stamps will still be "synchronized" if they are in the parent category. The same goes for your other two points. People can still find missing stamps of 1923 if the stamps are in "Category:Stamps of the Soviet Union, 1923" and there's nothing special about this category when it comes to searching for Stamps of the Soviet Union from 1923. If anything the words "all stamps" are just redundant. True if you search for "all stamps" in the search box it will give you only stamps of the soviet union, but that's not the point of category names. Just like I can't put random, made up words in the name of a category to act as a search filter, and that's essentially what your doing.

Outside of that, I don't think your other two points are valid either. Like I said, literally no other stamp category has the term "all stamps" at the end of it. None of them are "fragmented" and no one has issues with finding the stamps of a particular year for a particular country. I can literally find stamps of Greece from 1911 right now by searching for "Stamps of Greece, 1911." Nothing you said addressed the issues I brought up either. It's hard for me to care about what your saying or take it seriously when you completely ignored what I said. If you think we should stick to the status quo then you should at least address the reasons why I started this discussions. In the meantime I don't really care if your actively working on things in the categories. Categories don't exist for the purpose of a single user's pet project. Otherwise create a "Stamps of the Soviet Union uploaded by Matsievsky" category or something and do your pet project there. Or create a gallery for it like I suggested. You could do literally the exact same thing with a gallery in the main stamps of the Soviet Union category. --Adamant1 (talk) 11:14, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

• Вы не потрудились меня понять. Речь идет не о поиске с помощью инструментов или фильтров, часто такой поиск бесполезен. Речь идет о заходе в конкретную категория и поиску в ней файлов непосредственно, глазами. То, что таких категорий больше нигде нет, означает, что там категории не развиты. В почтовых марках СССР много категорий, например, с сериями марок. На каждый год приходится много серий марок. Вы так и не поняли, что обсуждаемые категории созданы не по капризу, а по необходимости. У меня сложилось, впечатление, что вы считаете, что сможете перенести все файлы из "Stamps of the Soviet Union, X year, all stamps" в "Stamps of the Soviet Union, X year". К сожалению, не сможете. Если бы это было возможно, я бы не предпринял столько усилий. Часть файлов, иногда большую часть файлов, вам придется удалить, поскольку они находятся также в подкатегориях категории "Stamps of the Soviet Union, X year". Также с марками Греции я не понял, зачем вы вытащили файл из годовой категории и поместили его в общую категорию. Я вообще не понимаю, что вы делаете. Вы просто развели самодеятельность. Если есть вопросы - спрашивайте, вам ответят. --Matsievsky (talk) 12:04, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

• I understand you perfectly fine. I just disagree with what you said. What exactly do you think I got wrong? Because you still haven't said anything that addresses or disproves any of my points. If anything your just talking in circles. Like you say said isn't about searching for the files and then in the same sentence you said it's for searching for the files. Which one is it? "The category is a valid way to organize the stamps because I created the category" is just more of the circular nonsense. Also, how exactly can people not search for the files if they are in "Stamps of the Soviet Union, X year" when they will have the exact same file name, image, and order? I'm aware that there are many series of stamps for each year. Putting the files in "Stamps of the Soviet Union, X year" doesn't negate that, make it impossible for there to be specific categories for the stamp series', or effect them in any other way. So I have zero clue what your on about. Other then that my edits to stamps of Greece have no relation to this. If you have an issue with how I edited the stamps of Greece categories this isn't the place to discuss them. I'd appreciate if you stuck to the topic of this discussion and not make it personal or about other categories. If anything the fact that your looking through my edits for other things to discuss just proves you have no argument. --Adamant1 (talk) 12:35, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

• Начнем с начала. "The name of this category is super obtuse and it's purpose doesn't make any sense." Вы начали общение со мной с оскорбления. Затем вы утверждаете, а не спрашиваете, что цель категории не имеет никакого смысла. Я вам разъяснил, какой смысл имеет эта категория, что она необходима для удобной работе с файлами. Также я объяснил, почему в других странах такой категории нет. Мне виднее, как мне комфортнее работать с файлами, содержащими сканы почтовых марок. А про Грецию вы сами начали. Пример с Грецией говорит о том, что вы еще мало размышляли о файлах с почтовыми марками и не имеете соответствующего опыта. С марками СССР сложилась оптимальная структура категорий, которая проверена многолетней практикой. Вы единственный, кто недоволен. По поводу "галерей". Имеются другие годовые списки: 1) вами названный "the main stamps of the Soviet Union category"; 2) в Русской Википедии имеются статьи с описанием всех марок конкретного года. Но: 1) это не первичные, а вторичные объекты, которые основаны на категориях "Stamps of the Soviet Union, X year, all stamps"; 2) эти годовые списки содержат только "основные" марки как файлы в формате "jpeg"; 3) с этими годовыми списками неудобно и даже иногда невозможно работать по нескольким причинам. --Matsievsky (talk) 13:05, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

• First of all I didn't address the first message to you. Secondly, the purpose of this discussion isn't to ask you questions. You don't own the category. You could explain why the category isn't obtuse and how it make sense, but I don't see you doing that. I don't think your whole "there's no other categories like this one because there isn't any other categories like this one" thing is valid. If your going to push the thing about the Greece category, I removed the stamp from it because the purpose of categories is to organize multiple files, there was only one file in the category, and there's almost zero chance of there ever being more because stamps of Greece aren't in the public domain. What the purpose of categories isn't for is to just make parent categories or navigational templates look pretty. You should know all that though since your supposedly the expert here. It's ridiculous I have to tell what categories are for when your the one that supposedly has the experience and are calling me an amateur. That we don't create separate categories for every single individual file on here is pretty basic day one stuff. Other then that how Wikipedia does thing isn't relevant. This is a different project. Again, that's pretty basic knowledge that any amateur should know. --Adamant1 (talk) 13:25, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

• "the purpose of categories is to organize multiple files". Не только это. Еще одна цель категорий заключается в облегчении поиска файлов. Вы затруднили поиск файлов. Верните греческую категорию. --Matsievsky (talk) 14:17, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

• In no way did I make it harder to find files. Again though, this isn't the place to discuss my edits to Greek stamps. If you genuinely think there is an issue with my edits then take it up on my talk page or at least somewhere else besides this discussion. --Adamant1 (talk) 14:24, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

If nothing else maybe you can at least answer me this, say I have a 1960 block of Stamps of the Soviet Union that I want to upload and put in a category. Does it go in "Stamps of the Soviet Union, 1960", "Stamps of the Soviet Union, 1960, all stamps", "‎9th standard issue of Soviet Union stamp series", or "Stamps of the Soviet Union, 1960, stamp series‎" and how exactly would I determine that by looking at the stamp I scanned and/or the titles of the categories? --Adamant1 (talk) 12:55, 20 April 2022 (UTC)‎

• Очень просто. Как всегда. При загрузке файла на Склад вы помещаете файл во все подходящие для него категории. Если ошибетесь - ничего страшного, вас поправят заинтересованные пользователи. --Matsievsky (talk) 13:05, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

• I didn't think you'd answer the question. So essentially, no one except you can organize Russian stamps. Sure dude. Obviously people can be corrected if they make a mistake, but that shouldn't be the default and people should still be able to organize files without having to dump them in the main category because they don't understand how the system works. Your answer is exactly why I said the categories are super obtuse and nonsensical. You can't answer a simple question about the categories or how to use them, and there's no other way to tell where to put a file. I don't know what else to call that except for obtuse and nonsensical. Seriously, categories shouldn't have naming schemes that require gate keepers. Personally I'm not going to waste my time uploading my collection of Russian stamps, covers, and other postal items if I have to ask you where the files go just so they can be half organized. It's no wonder I'm the only that has had an issue with the categories when you've acted this defensive about it. You clearly have serious ownership issues. Get over it. "You can't stop everyone in the world from editing "your" stuff." --Adamant1 (talk) 13:25, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Высокие стороны договорились о переименовании этой категории. Пожалуйста, закройте обсуждение. --Matsievsky (talk) 14:15, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Категория переименована в Category:1923 all stamps of the Soviet Union. Matsievsky (talk) 15:50, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

Category:Estriol (Sex Hormone Creme)

Remove “sex hormone creme” Dronebogus (talk) 00:41, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Category:Breast growth after female hormone intake (Transgender)

Remove “transgender” Dronebogus (talk) 00:41, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Category:Circumcision in Germany

Every single image in this category is a circumcised(?) penis and not related to the operation itself like every other similar category. Should be deleted as empty of relevant files. Dronebogus (talk) 07:03, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

•  Delete All just photos of the same exhibitionist Captain Eek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 21:04, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Category:Sunsets by city

Which preposition should be used? Sunsets "of" or sunsets "in" A1Cafel (talk) 02:56, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

hi, I am from Portugal and English is not my native language ... so ... I will agree with any better opinion, best regards JotaCartas (talk) 03:18, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

of seems to be the preferred option, as can be seen throughout Canada, Turkey, the United Kingdom and the United States, just to give a few examples. Would you be happy to settle on of, A1Cafel and JotaCartas? Then maybe we can standardize every category. Kind regards, Alavense (talk) 10:29, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

I'm also leaning towards "of"--A1Cafel (talk) 14:43, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Category:British Railways DP1

Restore name to English Electric DP1 This loco was always privately owned, never by British Railways. Andy Dingley (talk) 08:50, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

I have no objection to a Name change, but please move this category rather than creating a duplicate category. Oxyman (talk) 14:25, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Category:Collections of military aircraft by museum

This category and its sub-categories are unhelpful in that they hide large numbers of aircraft images from the main Category:Collections of aircraft by museum group. The idea was started by a user who left the project two years ago after tagging only 12 museums (there are currently 349 aircraft collection by museum categories). It is impractical to sift through all the museums and populate new military categories (it's possible that the creator realised this and abandoned the idea).

A further complication is determining what 'military' means. Many aircraft museums display aircraft in military markings but often they are civil registered and owned. Many military museums display civil aircraft. It is far simpler to group all aircraft museum collections in one category with no qualifiers. I am happy to populate the main category before deletion which I believe I'm allowed to do (i.e. temporarily have images in both categories as opposed to depopulating the categories). Thanks. Nimbus227 (talk) 11:00, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

The contents (categories and files) of the 10 subject categories have been copied to their parent 'Aircraft at X museum' categories as allowed by the template. There are now 321 of these categories with potential for more as not all museums have the standard structure yet (i.e. they lack any sub categories). Nimbus227 (talk) 10:04, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

 Delete per nom.   — Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me} 10:40, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

 Oppose Structures like xyz-type of objects in abc-museum are widely known in Commons as to bee seen in Category:Collections of aircraft by museum and Category:Collections of military vehicles by museum. Specially in substructures WP-Germany has developed and the structures as Category:Military aircraft in the Wehrtechnische Studiensammlung Koblenz for museums to sort the enormous amount of unique pictures of this official Bundeswehr-Collection. We are still supporting this museum which keeps uploading more very unique material. Any destruction concerning this structures and content will cause irritation and harm our cooperation. Best Ｔｏｍ (talk) 15:38, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

Noting that Category:Military aircraft in the Wehrtechnische Studiensammlung Koblenz and its related sub-categories are being depopulated despite having a clear CfD notice with the wording Please do not make major changes to this category (or to categories and pages related to this discussion), or remove this notice until the discussion has been closed. This discussion is still open. Nimbus227 (talk) 17:24, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

 Oppose Look at it from the Category:Military aircraft. This is an absolutely legitimate category. Due to the large number of illustrations in it, it is divided into standard subcategories: "...by country", "...by manufacturer‎", etc. Including of course "...by museum". What will you do with it? Come to this category every 2 weeks and delete all the sub-categories "...by museum", explaining to other users that subcategories "...by museum" are prohibited for this category? I think this would be a bad option.--Gandvik (talk) 15:34, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

I wanted to say, that if there is a Category:Military aircraft, then the appearance of a subcategory Category:Collections of military aircraft by museum corresponds to the rules of Wikimedia Commons. These sub-categories will of course be included in the Category:Collections of aircraft by museum. Something cannot be changed here... And don't need to...--Gandvik (talk) 18:18, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Category:Ungern-Sternberg (surname)

See also: Commons:Categories for discussion/2021/09/Category:Donald Alexander (given name).

categories of double surnames should be banned Estopedist1 (talk) 09:11, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Why? Andy Dingley (talk) 09:40, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

 Keep @Estopedist1: I do not see a reason why certain forms of surnames should be banned and others permitted, what is the reasoning here? Josh (talk) 02:06, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

@Andy Dingley@Joshbaumgartner because the combinations of double surnames is unlimited. Unfortunately Wikidata has also item Wikidata:Q29042997. I would always break them down: Ungern (surname) and Sternberg (surname) in this case Estopedist1 (talk) 15:09, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

A double-barrelled name is still a surname. It's not some random cross product that Commons has invented on a whim. Andy Dingley (talk) 18:20, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

@Estopedist1: It is not unlimited. It is expressly limited to those such names which are used by people we have content on. That is and always will be a finite set. However, I do not see a problem with the compound name being categorized under its component names as you listed. Josh (talk) 19:12, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

@Estopedist1 and Andy Dingley: Any objection to closing this CfD, or is there anything new to bring to it? It does not seem there is a consensus to change or delete this category. Josh (talk) 06:28, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

If we agree that double-barrelled surnames are valid, and that we keep the category, I'm happy to close this. Andy Dingley (talk) 10:30, 12 December 2022 (UTC)