File:GFDL (English).ogg/Warning 1

This page came up in the review at VP/T. File namespace has no subpages. The discussion I checked relate to File:GFDL (English).ogg, not File:GFDL (English).ogg/Warning 1. Any reason why this shouldn't be included directly elsewhere? I think @JopkeB: was correct to tag it for speedy deletion. Enhancing999 (talk) 09:59, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

I think this page should be deleted, but before that happens the use of it as a template on File:GFDL (English).ogg will need to be replaced by something else Either this template should be substituted into the description or it should be copied into the template namespace. The internationalisation machinery at File:GFDL (English).ogg/Warning 1/en and File:GFDL (English).ogg/Warning 1/layout is part of this template and should be replaced or copied elsewhere at the same time. --bjh21 (talk) 14:36, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

From a technical perspective, this could be moved to template namespace. However, I'm not convinced it is appropriate in template namespace — it is a one-off unique case for this single file, the spoken audio of the text of the GFDL, and it should not be generally available for use on other files. It can't be substituted into the file page itself, as that would break the autotranslate internationalization with the default base, and even if that were addressed, the en and layout subpages would still have to be located somewhere. We could embed the warning and keep the internationalization by rewriting the warning to use {{LangSwitch}}. But why go the effort? The parent file is already a one-off exception of the license policy for practical reasons, so keeping "warning 1" would be the easy solution to something that works fine as is. I lean  Keep. —RP88 (talk) 22:44, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Even from this location, it could be transcluded elsewhere.

BTW there are no translations available. So these fake subpages just create a lot of issues for nothing. Enhancing999 (talk) 23:10, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

We could fairly easily arrange that the template wouldn't work on any other file, whether it's here or in the template namespace. We could wrap its contents in {{#ifeq: {{FULLPAGENAME: File:GFDL (English).ogg}} | {{FULLPAGENAME}} | ... | }} for instance. But actually, I'm not sure that's appropriate. We might reasonably have other recordings of the GFDL, or a recording of version 1.3 (this is 1.2), and those would be under the same licence and require the same warning. --bjh21 (talk) 10:43, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

 Keep Given that this warning is a very fair warning that explicitly lets you know that this is an ND-licensed file, of which needs to be here, isn't it obvious we need it? If not, use something like this:

{{Warning|1=The GFDL prevents derivative works of itself from being created ("Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies of this license document, but changing it is not allowed"). As such, creation of derivative works of this file may be prohibited. Please see the licensing section of this file for more detailed information.}}

The GFDL prevents derivative works of itself from being created ("Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies of this license document, but changing it is not allowed"). As such, creation of derivative works of this file may be prohibited. Please see the licensing section of this file for more detailed information.

This is that warning I was forced to make myself after the warning was deleted before it was restored. But if you are trying to delete the file itself, please keep it too per previous DRs as it needs to be here. AuroraANovaUma ^-^ (talk) 00:31, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Alternatively, copy and paste the code of the nominated warning. I believe this should just be kept though. AuroraANovaUma ^-^ (talk) 00:33, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Furthermore, there is now a warning in the file telling you not to delete it. AuroraANovaUma ^-^ (talk) 00:34, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

the template* AuroraANovaUma ^-^ (talk) 00:35, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

What's your opinion on the question asked initially? Enhancing999 (talk) 00:49, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

As the template creator, I !vote  delete. I thought the i18n infrastructure would be a good idea, but I now think it's a better idea to use

{{Warning|1={{LangSwitch|en=The GFDL prevents derivative works of itself from being created ("Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies of this license document, but changing it is not allowed"). As such, creation of derivative works of this file may be prohibited. Please see the licensing section of this file for more detailed information.}}}}

(using LangSwitch) since it would be easier to find for translators if they want to translate. —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - _uselesscontributions} 10:47, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

And I also like the idea of using "Everyone" instead of "[e]veryone" since idk what the purpose of that is lol (and "Everyone" is also more verbatim than "[e]veryone" if we're copying the GFDL's warning). But yeah, I like the idea of using {{Warning}} for this, but not that I mind either to be used. AuroraANovaUma ^-^ (talk) 20:32, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Deleted: per nomination. --Krd 06:31, 14 November 2024 (UTC)