Category:Andrew Johnson and slavery

I say delete and just apply the parent categories to the one image (a newspaper clipping) in this category. As far as I can see, we don't have any other Commons categories about a single individual "and slavery", and it seems very odd to create one for one newspaper clipping. Jmabel ! talk 06:20, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

@Jmabel by all means speedy delete if you like! I think I created it somewhat absentmindedly with the idea that Category:Andrew Johnson was probably getting big and in correlation with the article. But I'm not attached! Do your thing. Jengod (talk) 07:37, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

@Jengod: conversely, if you have more images to add to the category, it's probably worth keeping; it's just that having a category intersection for one newspaper clipping seemed pointless. Your call. - Jmabel ! talk 07:42, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

@Jmabel I added a bunch of subcats, if they suit great, if not, no worries. Jengod (talk) 20:42, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

@Jengod: fine with me. If all of those are people who were his slaves, you might consider grouping them under a single subcategory Category:Slaves of Andrew Johnson and putting just that directly under Category:Andrew Johnson and slavery. - Jmabel ! talk 20:48, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

I think this is now reasonably sorted out; no need to have a further CfD, even if there might be more work to do here. - Jmabel ! talk 20:48, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:Hydrographic maps of Côtes-d'Armor by commune

Propose deleting this category. It is set up as a metacat, but there are no subcategories. There were had 300 or so individual files (which I moved to the parent category), but each seemed to be for a different commune, so no need for a metacat anyway. Auntof6 (talk) 09:50, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Ok. Can be deleted.Roland45 (talk) 10:05, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Deleted, empty. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 20:34, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:Salomonstaße 14 (Görlitz)

Diese Kategorie kann gelöscht werden, da sie zweimal, einmal als "Salomonstaße 14", einmal als "Salomonstraße 14" besteht. Gamgee (talk) 13:40, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

@Gamgee: Es ist nicht nötig, über "Categories for discussion" zu gehen, um eine falsch geschriebene Kategorie zu löschen. Verwenden Sie einfach {{SD|C1}}. "C1" kommt von Commons:Kriterien für die Schnelllöschung. - Jmabel ! talk 19:37, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

As explained above in German, there is no need to go through CdD for a misspelled category name. Just use {{SD|C1}}. "C1" comes from Commons:Criteria for speedy deletion. - Jmabel ! talk 19:37, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:Zazu the dog

Perhaps I am missing something, but why are 46 photos of this particular dog in scope for Commons? Jmabel ! talk 20:09, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

@Discott: it's yours  — billinghurst sDrewth 21:05, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

• delete and the images under f10.  — billinghurst sDrewth 21:03, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

@Billinghurst I created this category largely for myself to keep track of them. But if it is felt that it is not an appropriate category then comfortable seeing the category go. Not so sure what a f10 justification is for deleting images however. This is the first time I have heard of such a thing. Discott (talk) 22:31, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Commons:Criteria for speedy deletion  — billinghurst sDrewth 00:35, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

But Discott is hardly a non-contributor, and most of these are reasonably high-quality. Still, I think this is a bit excessive, as remarked below.

@Discott: at least in the future: if you are making a category mainly for yourself, please do use {{User category}}. It saves admins a lot of effort. We allow a lot of slack for those among active participants.

Also, repeating here a point from below, since I've pinged you: can you say something about the breed and age of the dog? That makes these a lot more useful to someone who does not know you personally. - Jmabel ! talk 01:54, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Jmabel, categories is the one thing on Wikipedia and Commons that I have not fully wrapped my head around and so seems to get me into the most trouble. I will add the breed and age of the dog to the category page in hopes that it stays. Please let me know if there are other places I should do that, perhaps Wikidata? This is what I will add;"female mixed breed dog of unknown parentage. 3 years of age. From Cape Town, South Africa." Discott (talk) 12:32, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

 Comment Many of those dog photos are substantially higher quality than other a) photos of dogs we keep b) mundane photos we keep/have. There aren't many pics like File:Little Heath pond in Surrey.jpg and it's seems the only pic of a) that dog defecating and b) a beautiful scenery humorously blemished by a defecating dog in a corner. I do see how it's off to have a whole 46 pics and a cat of the same dog. If they are deleted I just think a few should remain (at least two). This one is an example image that is low quality and think should be deleted: File:Zazu the dog on Lion's Head mountain 28.jpg. Prototyperspective (talk) 22:47, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

I'm not saying by any means that they are bad pictures; it's just (1) they would be more broadly useful if there were some information about the breed, age, etc. of the dog and (2) I get a little concerned about encouraging this sort of thing with a category specific to the animal. If someone here were to upload 46 pictures of their boyfriend/girlfriend on a hike and create a category for that person, we would certainly consider that out of scope. These might be slightly more useful (because we might have fewer images of dogs in settings like this) but I'm not comfortable with the precedent, especially the category specific to one non-notable (sorry, but that's presumably the case) dog.

When I take pictures for Commons while hiking, I do my damnedest to keep my own hiking party out of the images. - Jmabel ! talk 00:26, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Agree on that. Also I meant to say "of a) that dog breed" of course. I share that concern but I don't know what could and should be done about it. One issue is that what people usually try to keep out of images or think is useless often is what we have few images of and after they have been provided they are usually back to being rather useless. For example just like movies over and over depict war, the more common experiences of people living in the past beyond that is usually not part of them and WMC misses some more media on Daily life and common experience in regards to what most average people spend most of their time on. Having sets of the same dog from different vantage points and so on for example could be useful than having many images only of different dogs which doesn't mean we should have countless cats for any high-quality images of dogs. If the images were not well organized in a cat they are rather unlikely to get deleted and that is even more the case if the same scenery images were uploaded without a dog in it. So I slightly tend toward toward keep but also share these concerns and would probably support deletion of many images in that cat as well as doing something about the cat. Mundane photos on WMC is a broader issue or non-issue regarding the small storage needs for them as long as they don't clutter category pages and search results. Prototyperspective (talk) 10:48, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Delete Category:Zazu the dog and upmerge contents. Whether or not to delete these images is a matter for COM:DR, not CfD. That said, I do agree that at least some of them may have value as images depicting scenes we don't otherwise have, and in many cases, irrespective of the presence of the dog, the other elements in the image are shown in a way we don't otherwise have. However, if these files are deleted, this will be a speedy. If not, I think there is still a valid question as to whether this category should be retained, even if the images are. Normally if we have 40+ images of a specific individual, it would warrant a category, but that presumes the individual has some sort of notability (hence the volume of images). Private individuals (and presumably private pets) however, even if there are a large number of images of them for whatever reason, do not necessarily need to be categorized under their name, as there is not really a use case for Commons users looking for the name of a private person or pet. I would think that even if these images are retained, they can be up-merged to the 2 parent categories and this category deleted. If for some reason we decide to keep this category, it still should be re-named: if Zazu is the dog's name, Category:Zazu (dog) would be the correct format versus 'Zazu the dog'. However, I think deletion is the best option here. Josh (talk) 11:35, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

•  Comment If the images are in scope and the category is useful to the user, I suggest adding Categories "User categories" and "Hidden categories" to make clearer it is not a category for general use. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 20:38, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
  • I'd have no problem with turning this into a user category. @Discott: would that be OK with you as a solution to this? - Jmabel ! talk 22:33, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

    Hi @Jmabel, sure. That sounds great, thank you. I just want a category to sort things into. I am not very concerned what type of category it is. Discott (talk) 00:15, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

@Billinghurst, Prototyperspective, and Joshbaumgartner: if you agree to turn this into a user category, then we have a clear consensus. - Jmabel ! talk 00:48, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

I am fine with that, but since it will no longer be a topical category, we should make sure all contents are in good topical categories as well as this one. I think Discott has added them to a lot of files already, but there are still some that need proper topical categories. Josh (talk) 03:00, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Also fine with it, that seems like a good solution. Prototyperspective (talk) 10:14, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Looks to me like user-fying the category is uncontroversial. billinghurst or anyone else: if there are photos here that you want to nominate for deletion, I think that's a separate issue. Nothing in this closure is a comment either way on that possibility. - Jmabel ! talk 20:05, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:Presentador, radio, Onda Vasca, Creativos más Vivos, El primero

At the very least, a very poorly named category (with no parent categories). What is its intended scope? Jmabel ! talk 20:33, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

• Delete I've diffused him to Basque people and to Radio presenters in Spain.

Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:30, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Closed. Now empty, so deletion is presumably uncontroversial. - Jmabel ! talk 17:38, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:Liz Johnson Forbey

Should be merged into Category:Elizabeth Johnson Forby Jengod (talk) 21:04, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

This category discussion has been closed.
Consensus	Resolved without objection
Actions	Delete category
Participants	Jengod (talk · contribs)
Closed by	Josh (talk) 22:28, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:Battleships of Finland

• Category:World War II battleships of Finland
• Category:World War II cruisers of Finland
• Category:Cruisers of Finland
• Category:World War II monitors of Finland
• Category:Monitors of Finland

Needless recently created naval ship categories. Finland has not ever possessed any battleships, cruisers or monitors, either in WW2 or at any other time. Category:Väinämöinen class coastal defence ships were the only content of these categories but that class is already properly categorized as a coastal defence ship. MKFI (talk) 21:09, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Added other categories to this deletion discussion. MKFI (talk) 21:12, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

This category discussion has been closed.
Consensus	Resolved without objection
Actions	Delete all
Participants	MKFI (talk · contribs)
Closed by	Josh (talk) 07:20, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

 Comment If in the future a secret mega fleet of Finnish battleships is revealed and files of them added, these can be re-created to hold them. Josh (talk) 07:20, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:Pachychile

This is almost certainly a disused taxon name. Might it be the same as Category:Pachycera? If not, can someone place it? Jmabel ! talk 22:16, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

I found scientifiv texts about it, both in German but without synonymes.

https://books.google.de/books?hl=de&lr=&id=rzwoAAAAYAAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PP18&dq=Pachychile+tumidifrons&ots=kSDY2yaNXo&sig=kIjW5OMKuIKRz5oQISvP_VJtsMY#v=onepage&q=Pachychile%20tumidifrons&f=false 
https://www.zobodat.at/pdf/KOR_8_1919_0027-0043.pdf

Bionames: Pachychile Lacordaire, 1859

According to this text it is the same as Pachychila Eschscholtz, 1831 --Kersti (talk) 12:02, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

@Kersti Nebelsiek: so should we have a cat redirect to Category:Pachychila, or is this one obscure enough that we should just delete and move the content there? - Jmabel ! talk 18:30, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

I added already a redirect, as this will help others in finding the correct category. Kersti (talk) 18:39, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

By consensus, a redirect to Category:Pachychila. Jmabel ! talk 23:38, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:Professional wrestling performers

Previous to some changes by myself (the nominator), Category:Professional wrestling performers was used to hold Category:Professional wrestling announcers‎ and Category:Professional wrestling managers and valets‎. However, I have now placed these in the parent category: Category:People in professional wrestling. This is primarily for two reasons: To avoid duplication ("People in professional wrestling" is better as an umbrella term) and because the term "professional wrestler performer" is ambiguous (to many readers, a professional wrestling performer = professional wrestler, rather than the "out-of-ring" personnel). CeltBrowne (talk) 02:48, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Empty category, can have a Speedy deletion. --JopkeB (talk) 06:37, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Category:Uncategorized images from Wiki Loves Earth 2017 in Spain

This maintenance category is no longer useful A1Cafel (talk) 16:32, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Deleted, empty. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 21:05, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:Sanchita Choudhary in saris

Empty category. Should be deleted. Syrus257 (talk) 17:33, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

 Done: Empty category. --~Moheen ^{(keep talking)} 20:27, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:WLM/6830573000

This category is oddly named. It had no parent categories. I've placed it under Category:Wiki Loves Monuments in Russia, since from the "WLM" it presumably has something to do with that. The number that makes up the rest of the category name is probably from some cultural heritage inventory, though it is not present on the one image in the category. In any case, at the very least the category needs a more suitable name. Jmabel ! talk 22:03, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

This hidden and technical category contains photos of the cultural heritage monument in Russia number:6830573000. The category is an integral part of the database of Russian cultural heritage and there's no need of another categories. -- Екатерина Борисова (talk) 15:14, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

That's fine. It was not tagged as such when I started this discussion. - Jmabel ! talk 23:21, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Now appropriately tagged. - Jmabel ! talk 23:21, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:WLM/6830575000

This category is oddly named. It had no parent categories. I've placed it under [[:[Category:Wiki Loves Monuments in Russia]], since from the "WLM" it presumably has something to do with that. The number that makes up the rest of the category name is probably from a Russian cultural heritage inventory, and is referenced by at least one of the files in the category. In any case, at the very least the category needs a more suitable name. Jmabel ! talk 22:04, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

This hidden and technical category contains photos of the cultural heritage monument in Russia number:6830575000. The category is an integral part of the database of Russian cultural heritage. --

. Екатерина Борисова (talk) 15:11, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

That's fine. It was not tagged as such when I started this discussion. - Jmabel ! talk 23:21, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Now appropriately tagged. - Jmabel ! talk 23:21, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:Esplanades

What are the differences between Esplanades and Promenades? Both English Wikipedia and English Wikivoyage treat the two terms as synonyms. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 12:39, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

They're different etymologically, although the end result is probably synonymous for our purposes here (and so we should merge).

Both of them are constructed public spaces, most likely as walkways more than vehicle roads. The etymology though is that an esplanade comes from the same root as a plane and so is a flattened and levelled area. A promenade is from the sense of promenading or recreational strolling, and so a linear or circular route. Both can easily overlap: a seafront walk can be both an artificially levelled area, and an area encouraging walking. The choice of name applied is arbitrary. Andy Dingley (talk) 01:54, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Since in Commons it is all about images, audio and video and not about etymologically, and because both terms are about the same subject, I suggest to merge both categories. I would like to keep Promenades because that sounds more English to me (though both words origin from French) and therefor might be more recognizable by other non-native English speakers as well. JopkeB (talk) 08:16, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Merged Esplanades to Promenades per Andy Dingley and JopkeB. --Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 04:35, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Category:Portrait of an African by Allan Ramsay

Duplicate of Portrait of an African (attributed to Allan Ramsay - RAMM), now empty. "Portrait of an African (attributed to Allan Ramsay - RAMM)" should also be renamed to "Portrait of an African (RAMM)" as the former artist attribution is now disputed. Fences and windows (talk) 00:17, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Unnecessary discussion, this empty cat should be speedy deleted and I renamed the other to Portrait of a Man in a Red Suit - RAMM--Oursana--Oursana (talk) 01:48, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Deleted as empty. -- Túrelio (talk) 08:12, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:Nautical fiction

What is the difference between Category:Nautical fiction and Category:Water transport in fiction? Can both have clear definitions/descriptions showing the differences OR can both categories be merged? (They have now each other as a parent, two ways, so that is not correct and should be also resolved.) JopkeB (talk) 10:22, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Merged. --Allforrous (talk) 19:48, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

@Allforrous: It is a step forward that you give a reaction here. But the right order would have been:

• Agree on merging. We do, so this part has been done.
• Agree on how to merge: Category:Nautical fiction into Category:Water transport in fiction or the other way around, with arguments. You skipped this part, you have taken the law into your own hands.
• Wait whether other people have other opinions and/or arguments.
• Close the discussion.
• Implement the conclusions. This is what you have done before we have agreed upon the merger and before this discussion has been closed.

Please, act accordingly in the next case. I'll close this discussion now. JopkeB (talk) 06:46, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

This category discussion has been closed.
Consensus	More or less
Actions	Merge Category:Water transport in fiction into Category:Nautical fiction. Already  Done by Allforrous
Participants	Allforrous (talk · contribs)
Closed by	JopkeB (talk) 06:50, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:Maritime objects

This category looks like a grab bag of all kind of subcategories, from postcards, diagrams and models to museums and other kind of structures. And not the kind of stuff I would search here, like anchors and hawsers. What to do with it? For me the subcategories can be moved to proper parents and this category may be deleted. JopkeB (talk) 13:20, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

• Diffuse & delete per nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:38, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

This category discussion has been closed.
Consensus	Resolved by consensus
Actions	(1) Move the subcategories and files to proper parents. (2) Ask for speedy deletion for this category.  Done
Participants	Laurel Lodged (talk · contribs)
Notes	See Category:Nautical equipment if you look for a substitute.
Closed by	JopkeB (talk) 15:24, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Category:Water transport safety

What is the difference between Category:Water transport safety (without a proper description) and Category:Maritime safety (with a proper description)? Can the first one get a description showing the differences with the second one OR can both categories be merged? JopkeB (talk) 13:46, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

• I guess the second one (maritime safety) does not include "river-transport-related safety". There are contradictory labels in Wikidata that should be addressed, though. Strakhov (talk) 03:24, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

  Thanks Strakhov. So "Water transport" is the umbrella term, and "Maritime" and "River transport" are parts of it. But I see a lot of subctegories in Category:Maritime safety that might also apply to Water transport, like Category:Fireboats, Category:Life jackets‎‎ and Category:Water transport signs‎. My conclusions so far:

  • Both categories should stay.
  •  Action The description of Category:Maritime safety should be adjusted to make clear this is about seas and oceans.
  •  Action Category:Water transport safety should get a description.
  •  Action Subcategories that are now in Category:Maritime safety but also apply to other types of water transport should be moved to Category:Water transport safety.

  Do you agree? JopkeB (talk) 05:59, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, I think that could work. With regard to the description in "Water transport safety", IMHO the category name would be self explanatory, but if you think it's necessary, go ahead. Strakhov (talk) 21:47, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, User:Strakhov. Yes I think a description in "Water transport safety" is necessary to make clear that this is about all types of water transport. I'll wait another two weeks to see whether there are other opinions and then I'll implement the proposal. JopkeB (talk) 04:40, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

This category discussion has been closed.
Consensus	Resolved by consensus
Actions	See three  Action above  Done
Participants	Strakhov (talk · contribs)
Closed by	JopkeB (talk) 05:24, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:Maritime equipment

What is the difference between Category:Maritime equipment and Category:Nautical equipment for Commons? Can both have clear descriptions/definitions showing the differences OR can both be merged? JopkeB (talk) 14:35, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

I think "nautical" is the more general term for water transport and "maritime" more specific in relation to the ocean or at least sea water, but I'd not sure whether that is an important enough distinction to really matter for Commons categorisation. The reason similar categories get created in my experience is due to lack of description on existing categories with sufficient key words that someone looking a category will manage to find the existing category (albeit at a name they did not expect) rather than believe no appropriate category exists and so create a new one. I think they could be merged so long as all relevant keywords are in the description and appropriate category redirects are in place. Kerry Raymond (talk) 02:16, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks User:Kerry Raymond. So conclusions so far can be:

•  Action Merge Category:Maritime equipment into Category:Nautical equipment and give the first one a redirect.
•  Action Give the last one a description with sufficient key words so that someone looking for this category will manage to find it.

 Question What would be such a good description? JopkeB (talk) 06:20, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

There are some minor differences between the two concepts, but for Commons that is not important enough to keep both.

This category discussion has been closed.
Consensus	Resolved by consensus
Actions	(1) Merge Category:Maritime equipment into Category:Nautical equipment and give the first one a redirect. (2) Give the last one a description with sufficient key words so that someone looking for this category will manage to find it.  Done
Participants	Kerry Raymond (talk · contribs)
Closed by	JopkeB (talk) 10:31, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Category:N814IT (aircraft)

This category is for an invalid aircraft registration (US aircraft registrations cannot contain the letter I due to possible confusion with the number 1) and is unlikely to be useful. ZLEA _T\^C 18:17, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

This category discussion has been closed.
Consensus	Resolved without objection
Actions	Speedy delete
Participants	ZLEA (talk · contribs)
Closed by	Josh (talk) 07:24, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:Moshe Lion (accountant)

I suggest renaming to Category:Moshe_Lion_(mayor) since Mayor of Jerusalem, Israel's capital and most populous city, is position is much more high profile than any other position he had ever held, including CEO of Prime Minister's office. DGtal (talk) 09:38, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

 Done: per request. -- Geagea (talk) 11:02, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:SVG jihadist flags

israel icj case 131.109.124.111 13:06, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Can you elaborate on your reasoning? Clarinetguy097 (talk) 02:48, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

• Suggest Closing unless some specific suggestion to do something in particular is made. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 21:11, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: No basis for discussion, as no reason was given. --rimshot^talk 14:09, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Category:Photos from Panoramio needing categories by ID

Panoramio has stopped distributing photos since 2016, thus this maintenance category is no longer useful A1Cafel (talk) 14:21, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

 Delete Empty category, can be deleted. JopkeB (talk) 08:37, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

 Done: Deleted. Empty, as per nom. --rimshot^talk 14:13, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Category:Photos from Panoramio needing categories

Panoramio has stopped distributing photos since 2016, thus this maintenance category is no longer useful A1Cafel (talk) 14:21, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

 Delete After Category:Photos from Panoramio needing categories by ID has been deleted, this is an empty category and can be deleted. JopkeB (talk) 08:39, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

 Done: Deleted, empty and no new content expected, as per discussion. --rimshot^talk 14:14, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Category:Abarca

Se deberia cambiar el nombre de la categoría ya que existe una duplicidad, siendo esta categoria renombrada como "Escudo de Armas de los Abarca" e incluida en la otra duplicada Azahara00 (talk) 16:42, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Translation: The name of the category should be changed since there is duplication, with this category being renamed "Coat of Arms of the Abarca" and included in the other duplicate.

 Question What is the duplication? And what is "the other duplicate"?

 Agree This category should be renamed to Category:Coats of arms of the Abarca family JopkeB (talk) 08:43, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

This category discussion has been closed.
Consensus	Resolved by consensus
Actions	Keep this category and move the files to the new category Category:Coats of arms of the Abarca family  Done
Participants	Azahara00 (talk · contribs)
Closed by	JopkeB (talk) 06:09, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Category:The World Wars

What is the difference between Category:The World Wars, Category:World Wars‎ and Category:World wars‎? Can these three be merged into one? Or can one become a disambigious page with clear descriptions for the other two? JopkeB (talk) 08:37, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

All three appear synonymous; the contents of all three categories are practically identical. I'd be in favor of making Category:World wars the definitive category and redirecting the other two. Omphalographer (talk) 22:06, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, User:Omphalographer, I'll wait a few weeks to see whether there are other opinions and then I'll make the changes. JopkeB (talk) 06:27, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

 Support merging of all three into Category:World wars. Josh (talk) 07:32, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

• Delete all three It's a spurious grouping by SharedName which ought to be discouraged. "{ {Cat also } }" links is the navigational solution here. Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:41, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

  @Laurel Lodged: What do you exactly mean? JopkeB (talk) 04:11, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

  In Wiki, it's a subset of - - "Unrelated subjects with shared names". Does a similar policy not exist in commons? In the WWI category you could have "See Also Category WWII"; in the WWI category you could have "See Also Category WWI". Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:43, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

  No, as far as I know in Commons is not such a policy. On the contrary, there is for instance a Category:Jackson (surname) (and many like it) and it is a real category, not a DAB page. And I find them useful. So I would like to keep one of the three and it looks like it'll be Category:World wars. And in this case they do not just share a name, one of the causes of WW-II was the bad ending for Germany of WW-I. JopkeB (talk) 04:57, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

All three appear synonymous. Make Category:World wars the definitive category and redirect the other two.

This category discussion has been closed.
Consensus	Resolved by consensus
Actions	Make Category:World wars the definitive category and redirect the other two.
Participants	Omphalographer (talk · contribs) Joshbaumgartner (talk · contribs) Laurel Lodged (talk · contribs)
Closed by	JopkeB (talk) 06:02, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Category:Vollenhovenmeer

I made a typo, category already exists: Category:Vollenhovermeer. Argo Navis (talk) 12:38, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Deleted, empty, typo. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 21:15, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:Spotlight (Jessie Ware song)

Appears to be vandalism. Clarinetguy097 (talk) 02:34, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

How is this vandalism? It has the same category name as in Wikidata and the EN-WP.

That said, the subcategories and files look indeed weird to me: they are not about a song, but about people. So my proposal is:

• Move the files and subcategories to proper parents.
• Ask for deletion for this category.

JopkeB (talk) 09:15, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

It just looked suspicious and I didn't think it was created for a legitimate purpose. At this point, it should be deleted as an empty category. Clarinetguy097 (talk) 22:19, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

This category discussion has been closed.
Consensus	Resolved by consensus
Actions	Give this category a speedy deletion because it is empty and it suspicious/looks like vandalism  Done
Participants	Clarinetguy097 (talk · contribs)
Closed by	JopkeB (talk) 06:35, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

Category:Madonna–whore complex

Empty category. @Allforrous and Joanbanjo: It looks like you had a kind of an edit war. Can this category be deleted? OR: what would be the use of it on Commons? JopkeB (talk) 07:13, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Hello. It wasn't an edit war, I just removed the categories in red and then he reverted and created them afterwards, that's all, no problem. And as for the category (and all similar ones) I would delete it because it is intangible, vague and abstract (that's why they are empty or just with few items). Regards.

Joanbanjo (talk) 04:00, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

• Empty. @Allforrous: , any objection to deletion? -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 21:18, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Still empty category. No objections to delete this category in over a month, so I'll make a deletion request for it. JopkeB (talk) 08:47, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Category:IMessage

i message 91.249.241.43 07:42, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: Test, nothing to do. --Achim55 (talk) 07:46, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:Aerial photographs Pangasinan

Mistake... please delete. Correct replacement page made already. Jidanni (talk) 07:54, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Deleted per nom, empty -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 21:19, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:Neologisms

Why should this category be on Commons? 1) Commons is for storing media, it is not for creating glossaries, therefor we have Wikipedia and Wictionary. 2) Soon (I guess within 10 years) the subcategories will be accepted as mainstream and not be neologisms anymore. JopkeB (talk) 09:56, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Is this category empty? No. Then I don't understand the rationale. Andy Dingley (talk) 10:44, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

This is not being about empty. This is about the scope of Commons. JopkeB (talk) 15:06, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

@JopkeB: Excellent point, the fact that Commons categories are for organizing files, and not for defining their contents (in fact it is quite the opposite), is seemingly oft-forgotten here, or perhaps just insufficiently explained to users in our policies and guidelines. What is or is not a 'neologism' is a mushy concept, so simply trying to collect anything deemed to be a neologism here is always going to be problematic, and I'm not even sure what the purpose is. Looking at some of the content, I am not seeing it:

• File:02016 Syf.JPG - A seemingly random photo. How does this depict the concept of neologisms?
• File:Cliché.ogg - This is just pronunciation of a word. How does this depict the concept of neologisms?
• Category:Incel - This is a category of members of a subculture. Those people are not neologisms, so why are they categorized here?
• File:Felsőszölnök 29.JPG - Perhaps some of the words on this plaque are neologisms? Or they were in 1997? Or what? Again, there is nothing here to indicate what this file depicts about the concept of neologisms.
• Category:Farkasréti Jewish cemetery (Budapest) - Why in the world would a specific cemetery be an example of a neologism?
• File:Mansplaining-googletrends-world.png - This is an information graphic showing Google searches over time. How does this depict the concept of neologisms?

I can see some purpose to this category as a place for media describing the concept of neologisms, perhaps a voiced version of the article on the topic, an information graphic showing the use of neologisms over time or depicting the life-cycle of a word, or other files of that ilk. The last of the 4 above is the only one I saw even possibly serving this scope. The rest seem just a various collection of whatever files some users thought might depict things that can be referred to using words that might be considered neologisms. That's too fuzzy to be a useful or objective category scope definition. As JopkeB points out, neologism is only one stage in a word's life cycle within culture. Ostensibly all 'normal' words were once neologisms and there is no clear definition to say when they shed this label. Josh (talk) 08:05, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

@Joshbaumgartner: Conclusions so far:

• Commons policies and guidelines should explain better that Commons categories are for organizing files, and not for defining their contents (like neologisms and terminology).
• Category:Neologisms may be a good category for media describing the concept of neologisms, like a voiced version of the article on the topic or an information graphic showing the use of neologisms over time or depicting the life-cycle of a word.
• But there is only one file that meets these criteria, that is not enough to keep this category.

I propose:

• Get rid of Category:Neologisms. Whenever there are more files about describing the concept of neologisms, then this category can be revived.
• Get rid of the subcategories with "neologisms" in the category name.
• Move the other subcategories to correct parents.
• Try to explain better in Commons:Categories that categories are for organizing files, and not for defining their contents.

Do you agree? Do you have any additions or corrections? JopkeB (talk) 14:07, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

That seems a pretty good summary. I have made a comment on Commons talk:Categories regarding some potential language we can add there to help with the last item on your list. Josh (talk) 01:43, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, @Joshbaumgartner: the last one was the action I hoped you would take.

Then we can go forward. I'll wait a couple of weeks to see whether there are other opinions, and then I'll close this discussion and implement the three other proposals. JopkeB (talk) 16:59, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

• Commons categories are for organizing files, and not for defining their contents, like this one. Commons categories are not for creating glossaries, therefor we have sister projects.
• This category should only be for subcategories and files ABOUT neologism, like media describing the concept of neologisms, like a voiced version of the article on the topic or an information graphic showing the use of neologisms over time or depicting the life-cycle of a word. But there is only one file that meets these criteria, that is not enough to keep this category.

--JopkeB (talk) 05:49, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

This category discussion has been closed.
Consensus	Resolved by consensus
Actions	(1) Get rid of Category:Neologisms. (2) Get rid of the subcategories with "neologisms" in the category name.  Done (3) Move the other subcategories to correct parents.  Done (4) Try to explain better in Commons:Categories that categories are for organizing files, and not for defining their contents. [Started by Josh on 22 January 2024 at Commons talk:Categories]
Participants	Andy Dingley (talk · contribs) Joshbaumgartner (talk · contribs)
Notes	See also Talk page for more actions (including renaming the category)
Closed by	JopkeB (talk) 05:49, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Category:Paraduin

Created by a blocked user. Two of the five images are up for deletion and three seem unrelated to the topic. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 07:23, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

• A bit premature, no? The previous discussion advised to wait until the category is empty. At the moment of writing, Commons:Deletion requests/File:Flag of Paraduin.png is still ongoing, so let's be patient and revisit this category once the file DR has concluded. --HyperGaruda (talk) 06:17, 18 January 2024 (UTC)  Delete per COM:CSD#C2 it is then. --HyperGaruda (talk) 21:57, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
•  Delete, OOS, non-notable personal fiction. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 19:22, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
•  Delete The DR is closed and the only two files connected to the fictional "Paraduin" are deleted. --TU-nor (talk) 21:12, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
•  Delete obviously as the category is now empty. Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 15:28, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Deleted, empty -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 21:20, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:Wind turbines near Blumenhagen, Jatznick, Uecker-Randow Valley, Vorpommern-Greifswald, Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, Germany

this is a quite descriptive name, on OSM this windpark is called Windpark Groß Luckow-Blumenhagen (https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/14924066#map=14/53.5247/13.8491) and thus should be renamed (and recategorized as wind park). Herzi Pinki (talk) 07:17, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Hallo @Herzi Pinki, danke für den Hinweis und Vorschlag zur Umbenennung. Ich habe die Verschiebung vorgenommen und einen Löschantrag für den Verschieberest gestellt. Viele Grüße Molgreen (talk) 15:38, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:Water area

What is the difference between Category:Water area and Category:Bodies of water? Can both get clear descriptions showing the differences? Should one be a subcategory of the other? OR can they be merged? JopkeB (talk) 14:57, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Proposal: Merge Category:Water area into Category:Bodies of water. I'll implement this proposal in a month when there are no objections against it. JopkeB (talk) 10:46, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

This category discussion has been closed.
Consensus	Resolved without objection
Actions	Merge Category:Water area into Category:Bodies of water  Done
Participants
Closed by	JopkeB (talk) 05:39, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Category:Coats of arms of families of the Luxembourg

Please change the name of this category to "Coats of arms of families of Luxembourg". The previous name has a grammar error in it. Thanks in advance. 109.78.231.191 18:02, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for report. Skim (talk) 19:37, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

This category has been renamed to Category:Coats of arms of families of Luxembourg and afterwards been deleted. --JopkeB (talk) 10:49, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Category:Orchid uploads by vijayanrajapuram

I don't see the need for a category for uploads of orchid photographs by a specific user. Conan Wolff (talk) 21:04, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

...please delete this category and put the files in the category: Category:Unidentified Vanda (Orchidaceae). Orchi (talk) 15:15, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

@Orchi I don't know how to delete categories. Conan Wolff (talk) 15:23, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

...I hope, I make not an error  ;-) Orchi (talk)

Category has been deleted. --JopkeB (talk) 10:53, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Category:Rocks of the Lónvolcano

Does not exist. Lón is an bay, and not an volcano. Move both two files to Krossnesfjall. Ask me if more files are added here. Snævar (talk) 01:39, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

But yes, it's a volcano, an old, extinct and eroded caldera from the Miocene. Krossnesfjall as well as Eystrahorn and the bottom of the bay etc. are rests of the eroded edifice.Hornstrandir1 (talk) 11:41, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

For scientific articles mentioning this volcano, see eg.:

Emma Rhodes, Freysteinn Sigmundsson, etal.: Volcanic Unrest as seen from the magmatic source, Reyðarártindur pluton, Iceland. Scientific Reports 14, Article number: 962 (2024) https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-50880-0 (retrieved 16-1-2014) . Hornstrandir1 (talk) 11:51, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

I searched in ProQuest, Scopus and Web of Science, no matches in any of them. (I have access to all of those). Pretty sure that article you have is an one-off. The article you used also uses the spelling "Lón volcano", not "lónvolcano", the former makes sense, since the first part is an Icelandic word, and the latter is English.

Locally, in Iceland, there is an institution called "Icelandic institute of natural history". They have a geography map at https://jardfraedikort.ni.is/ which shows that Víkurfjall, Krossanessfjall and Vestrahorn have 'Mafic and intermediate intrusions', meaning those where volcanoes in the same age as you are claiming Lón was active. Looking further, Víkurfjall/Krossanesfjall is one volcanic system and Vestrahorn is another. Your article even confirms that there are nearby volcanic systems with the sentence "The geology of Lón is characterised by the juxtaposition of a number of Neogene volcanic systems". Both of those two pictures in the category are a part of aforementioned Víkurfjall/Krossanesfjall and have nothing to do with an "Lón volcano". Snævar (talk) 16:56, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Category has been deleted. --JopkeB (talk) 10:55, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Category:Dormitories of the leper colony

to be deleted, correction of own error in the category name Rigorius (talk) 09:23, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Category has been renamed to Category:Dormitories of the leper colony (Spinalonga) and then been deleted. --JopkeB (talk) 10:58, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Category:Mayors of Limburg

"Category:Mayors of Limburg (Belgium)" and "Category:Mayors of Limburg (Netherlands)" already exist Neanderen (talk) 19:00, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

So this should presumably be a disambiguation. - Jmabel ! talk 22:29, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

 Delete Or just delete this category. We do not have disambiguation pages for every category about Limburg in Belgium and the Netherlands either or for any other geographical name that occurs several times. A disambiguation page for the main category (in this case Category:Limburg) is enough. JopkeB (talk) 06:19, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

It is now an empty category. Since there was no objection to my proposal to delete this category in over a month, I'll ask for deletion. JopkeB (talk) 08:57, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Category:Serial numbers of guitar

I thought this should be plural (Category:Serial numbers of guitars) or maybe Category:Guitar serial numbers, but it seems like most other subcategories of Category:Serial numbers use "on": Category:Serial numbers on guitars. Thoughts? El Grafo (talk) 14:33, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Rename Category:Serial numbers of guitar to Category:Serial numbers on guitars : "on" is a better descriptor of what is being depicted and plural is the correct form for guitars. Josh (talk) 02:07, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

 Done Thanks for the feedback. I'll leave this open in case someone still has a different opinion, but since this seems like a pretty uncontroversial move, I've gone ahead and moved it (before I forget about it ...). El Grafo (talk) 13:17, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Category has been renamed to Category:Serial numbers on guitars and got a redirect. --JopkeB (talk) 11:04, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Category:Crowing Pains

Copyright infringement, mistakenly spelled as crowing pains (https://archive.org/details/catalogofcopyrig3281213li/page/154/mode/1up?view=theater) Bacromisee (talk) 00:03, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

If it's a copyright issue, then maybe delete, but I don't think it's a misspelling; one of the images shows the indicated spelling. -- Auntof6 (talk) 04:03, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Copyright issue, please delete. Bacromisee (talk) 15:00, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

If all the files are copyright infringement, please make a deletion request for them. See Help:VisualFileChange.js to make one request for all four of them. JopkeB (talk) 11:12, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: Title card of the work is "Crowing Pains", not "Growing Pains". The request for deletion is invalid. --Bedivere (talk) 03:06, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Category:Merkazon Rova Alef

merged into "Rova Alef shopping centre" מקף־עברי (talk) 13:09, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Proposal has already been implemented. --JopkeB (talk) 11:16, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Category:August 1975 in Count Durham

Shoud be deleted, misspelled title. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 14:54, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

•  Speedy delete Its was at this title for about 3 minutes, tagged as bad name. Crouch, Swale (talk) 15:38, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Deleted as empty. -- Túrelio (talk) 16:47, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:Lueger/Engineering

Who or what is/was "Lueger"? JopkeB (talk) 16:01, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Parent source category is Category:Images from Lexikon der gesamten Technik by Otto Lueger, so sub-categories should follow the same format instead of the current, highly-abbreviated format:

• Rename Category:Lueger/Architectural drawings to Category:Architectural drawings from Lexikon der gesamten Technik by Otto Lueger
• Rename Category:Lueger/Engineering to Category:Engineering in Lexikon der gesamten Technik by Otto Lueger
• Rename Category:Lueger/Toilets to Category:Toilets in Lexikon der gesamten Technik by Otto Lueger
• Rename Category:Lueger/Transport to Category:Transport in Lexikon der gesamten Technik by Otto Lueger

And so on for the sub-categories of these. Josh (talk) 02:36, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, Josh, now I can go on. JopkeB (talk) 03:28, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

This category discussion has been closed.
Consensus	Resolved by consensus
Actions	Rename all categories involved to correct category names  Done
Participants	Joshbaumgartner (talk · contribs)
Notes	The first one is now Category:Architectural drawings in Lexikon der gesamten Technik by Otto Lueger
Closed by	JopkeB (talk) 05:49, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:Pasifika Arts

This has no parent categories. What is this category about? Is it related to en:Wikipedia:WikiProject New Zealand/Pasifika Arts Aotearoa or is that just a coincidence of name? Jmabel ! talk 01:11, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi Jmabel, I did create the category in to support the project mentioned. I will add a parent category. The context is arts in it's broadest sense related to arts made by people from the diaspora of the Pacific region based in Aotearoa New Zealand. Let me know your thoughts. There is very little categorised or uploaded in the arts in New Zealand or from any of the Pacific Islands. Pakoire (talk) 01:25, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

@Pakoire: I'm pretty sure the parent categories you recently added are wrong. The parent categories you added suggest a topical category about the region, not about a WikiProject, and that topical category doesn't have a clear scope. The name "Pasifika Arts" hardly gives a clue, and the parent categories add up to something very broad.

• If it's topical, then we need to be clear about the scope of the topic, and it's probably (eventually) not just one category but a hierarchy analogous to Category:Japanese culture abroad and its subcats. If that is your intent, Category:Japanese culture abroad and its subcats would make a good model.
• If it's intended as a maintenance category, like a "holding tank" for images that need to be categorized, it should probably have as its parents Category:Commons maintenance by topic and a new Category:WikiProject New Zealand; that last would in turn have parents Category:Wikimedia movement in New Zealand and Category:WikiProjects.
• If it relates to images about the activities of WikiProject New Zealand (e.g. meetings, events) it should be under Category:Wikimedia movement in New Zealand (or, again, you could add a layer with Category:WikiProject New Zealand as suggested above).

Of course, you may want to create (as separate categories) all three of these things. - Jmabel ! talk 05:43, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks - I'll do a bit of research to figure it out. Pakoire (talk) 02:50, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

I suggest we detach this category from the WikiProject. If the goal is to encompass "arts made by people from the diaspora of the Pacific region based in Aotearoa New Zealand", we could look at the Category:Culture of Oceania by region, specifically Category:Culture of Melanesia, Category:Culture of Micronesia, and Category:Culture of Polynesia (though Pasifika usually means Polynesian in NZ). Each of these could then contain the new Category:Pasifika culture in Aotearoa New Zealand which could include Category:Fale Pasifika and Category:Pasifika Festival as well as the current photos in Category:Pasifika Arts. That opens the door to Category:Pasifika culture by country which at the moment would only contain the single photo in Category:Utah Pasifika Festival. How does that sound? —Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 02:37, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

@Pakoire: I assume that last question is addressed mainly to you.

I don't know the terrain well enough to have an opinion, just that this category as it stands doesn't make sense. - Jmabel ! talk 03:27, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Yes sounds good. Is it easy to change? If we do that then I might just ask a Pacifika curator before it is done. Pakoire (talk) 09:39, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

I have decided for now to change this category to be specifically for the Wikiproject and it will include images of people working on the project or logos etc. There is a bit more activity by members likely in the future. I will put the questions about the broader categories about arts content to the group. @Giantflightlessbirds @Jmabel

Pakoire (talk) Pakoire (talk) 02:38, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Closed as moot now that this is just a redirect to Category:Pasifika Arts Aotearoa WikiProject. - Jmabel ! talk 05:04, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Category:Fake flags by Donald Trung

Vandalism category by a globally banned sockpuppet (C / Musée Annam / Unserefahne). Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 23:29, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Puppet of C/Musee Annam/Đăng Đàn Cung. After insulting me and was banned as an IP user, he now created a new account. — Daeva Trạc (talk) 03:33, 21 January 2024 (UTC)—

This “category” of Musee Annam is a desperate attempt to counter the Category:Fake SVGs by 南文會館. This puppet claimed Donald Trung was uploading fake flags, but Trung’s files were made based on sources. While Musee Annam’s only source is “trust me bro” (he added some links that claimed as source, but no one can check them (they just direct to Wikimedia-Wikipedia pages) — Daeva Trạc (talk) 03:37, 21 January 2024 (UTC)—

=== [[:Category:Images of flags by source]] === The person who uploaded these pictures did not think they were fake, because he did not know Vietnamese. We have called for him to wake up more than once, but he has abused his power to silence us. I urge Wikipedia to at least remove these insulting flags. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hhahoaldg2 (talk • contribs) .

For context, the reason he created this category is because I exposed the fact that he was uploading fake flags and had them deleted. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 06:43, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

 Done: Deleted. --Yann (talk) 10:53, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:Riverina

The Riverina could also refer to the far older and more famous French Riverina. I would like to make it more clear what is being referred to by changing the name to Riverina, New South Wales. I was bold and made the changes, but it was reverted so bringing to discussion. - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 01:01, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

I am an idiot, closing. It’s the French Riviera, not Riverina! Oops, so sorry. - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 01:03, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

This category discussion has been closed.
Consensus	Proposal withdrawn
Actions	none
Participants	Chris.sherlock2 (talk · contribs)
Closed by	Josh (talk) 02:11, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:Photos by Anonymous Hong Kong Photographer 1

Should be merged into Category:Photographs by Anonymous Hong Kong Photographer 1 Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 04:51, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

•  Support, no reason to have both.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 19:38, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
•  Support, agree. - Jmabel ! talk 23:57, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
•  Support: Photos is a redirect to Photographs; full spelling preferred to abbreviations; should be uncontroversial spelling fix. Josh (talk) 03:42, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

  @Immanuelle: I believe this should count as a "trivial fix" according to Commons:Rename a category, and so can be done without a CfD unless you feel there is another reason why this action would be problematic or controversial. Josh (talk) 03:45, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

  I moved the contents.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 04:03, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

  Yall should undo miscategorisation like https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3AYau_Tong_Old_Buildings_201106.jpg&diff=844091250&oldid=648311616 . RZuo (talk) 09:32, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

  @RZuo and Immanuelle: Is that photo File:Yau Tong Old Buildings 201106.jpg by Anonymous Hong Kong Photographer 1? If so, why? If not, why not? What does that say about uploader WiNG?   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 13:06, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

  I made mistakes with miscategorization due to being new to using cat-a-lot. I apologize for it and I do believe I fixed most of my miscategorizion mistakes. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 17:55, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

 Done: Already empty; turned into redirect. --The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 08:29, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Category:Administrative territorial entities

What are the differences between Territories, Territorial entities and Administrative territorial entities? I found all three as synonyms. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 06:20, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Withdrawing the discussion as I have figured out the differences. --Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 14:03, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Category:Funeral of Franciscus

Deletion Pan Někdo (talk) 10:32, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Deleted. Empty, hypothetical. (May be recreated should there be media in the future) -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 21:31, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:Grave of Franciscus

Deletion Pan Někdo (talk) 10:32, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Deleted. Empty, hypothetical. (May be recreated should there be media in the future) -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 21:32, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:Death of Franciscus

Deletion Pan Někdo (talk) 10:32, 22 January 2024 (UTC) The pope is still alive. These categories (inc. the 2 mentioned above) are thus unnecessary and IMO it's disgusting that there are categories related to death of people who are still alive. --Pan Někdo (talk) 10:35, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Deleted. Empty, hypothetical. (May be recreated should there be media in the future.) (I would have been willing to assume misguided good faith from the creator, but I see it was done by an anon giving the event as this year - !! - if you can see the future, wait for the rest of the world to catch up!) -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 21:35, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:Islamic jurisprudence

What is the difference between Category:Islamic jurisprudence and Category:Fiqh? In Wikidata item w:Q9858052 it looks like it is about the same concept. Can both Commons categories be merged OR can both have clear descriptions showing the differences? JopkeB (talk) 05:07, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

 Support Islamic jurisprudence per the COM:CAT policy of using English. Fiqh may be mentioned there as the actual Arabic term. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 16:55, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

This category discussion has been closed.
Consensus	Resolved by consensus
Actions	Merge Category:Fiqh into Category:Islamic jurisprudence and give a redirect to the first one  Done
Participants	Sbb1413 (talk · contribs)
Closed by	JopkeB (talk) 15:50, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Category:Thita Rangsitpol Manitkul

contents appears copyright and once removed this category will be empty  — billinghurst sDrewth 07:40, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

•  Speedy delete Tagged as such, note its not necessary to start a CFD for categories with only copyvios as the copyvios can be nominated for deletion and the category tagged for speedy deletion as empty if the copyvios get deleted. Crouch, Swale (talk) 15:27, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Deleted as empty. -- Túrelio (talk) 16:17, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:Monuments to the Slovene partisans in Dražgoše

it is empty Hladnikm (talk) 14:26, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

 Speedy delete as empty. Can be re-created if content is added. Josh (talk) 00:36, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Deleted, empty cat -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 20:58, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Category:Kinmel hall

What's the difference between the title case version Category:Kinmel Hall and this? The only image is a historical one but doesn't indicate the difference namely why this one doesn't capitalize. Crouch, Swale (talk) 08:02, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

• Merge as typo Andy Dingley (talk) 09:57, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
• Merge as typo --Northernhenge (talk) 11:27, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

The result was merge, the author has agreed so it doesn't seem like there was intended to be a distinction between capitalization and it doesn't seem controversial. Crouch, Swale (talk) 15:59, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:Activité du 24 janvier

The category names are way too general and should be renamed to provide some context (e.g. Category:Activité R@/Bibliothécaires 2024-01-24 or some such; I'm very open about exactly what). Jmabel ! talk 20:42, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Hello@Jmabel, I agree with your proposal. I adopt it in this way to facilitate my understanding, given that the activities concern several social groups. I opt for this approach in order to situate myself more clearly in my reports. I welcome your suggestion if it contributes to a better organization of the data for my report. Azogbonon (talk) 08:54, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Also, please bear in mind that this concerns several days, not just January 24. @JmabelThank you very much for your assistance. Azogbonon (talk) 08:55, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

@Azogbonon: so would the particular name I suggested work, or would you want something else? - Jmabel ! talk 17:00, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Good evening, I agree with the proposed name. You can make changes and remove superfluous categories. @Jmabel Thank you very much. Azogbonon (talk) 19:55, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Looks like a strong consensus to rename. - Jmabel ! talk 20:15, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:Przyjaciel Dzieci (1861–1914)

Please rename by changing 1914 to 1915 (the article on pl wiki was renamed). The magazine continued until 1915 not 1914 Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 01:11, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

 Done: per nom. --Achim55 (talk) 08:53, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Category:Wikimedia Awareness In Kwami

Has no parent categories. Normally I'd just categorize this myself, but I can't even tell what country this is in. Jmabel ! talk 18:00, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Jmabel Thank you very much for your correction. The category is part of ongoing community activities in Nigeria. We will be very glad if you can help us to solve the problem or share resources that can help us understand what we are missing. Thank you once again YusufuAM (talk) 12:46, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

@YusufuAM: so I made this edit and created Category:Kwami. I also did this on Wikidata. You would do well to read Commons:Categories if you haven't already. - Jmabel ! talk 19:38, 12 February 2024 (UTC):

This is now decently sorted out. Most of the images in the category could also use more precise categories (and some don't have any obvious relation to Wikimedia awareness), but the category structure is OK. - Jmabel ! talk 00:09, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Category:Wlf toolkit screenshots

I suggest renaming, because the main "WLF" here is "Wiki Loves Food" and this appears to be "Wiki Loves Film". Jmabel ! talk 18:04, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Jmabel the images are of a tool for Commons:Wiki Loves Folklore --✝iѵɛɳ२२४०^{†ลℓк †๏ мэ} 19:03, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Even more confusing! OK, I'll change accordingly. - Jmabel ! talk 19:10, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Now clarified. - Jmabel ! talk 19:10, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:Eastern Catholic particular churches sui iuris

At the very least, this needs explanatory text for the meaning of this category. I understand that "sui iuris" means that the church has its own hiearchy independent of any other, including those with which it may share rites, but I doubt that is a commonly understood term. I don't know what "particular" means in this context, and would guess most other people won't either. I suppose "sui iuris" probably should stay, because I can't think of any other concise way to say it. What (if anything) does "particular" add? Jmabel ! talk 20:47, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

This is the meaning of "particular church": Catholic particular churches and liturgical rites. I suppose that it must be read with sui iuris so that it is clear that a single, particular, independent church is being selected for categorization. If you think that it is too long, I'm open to suggestions. Laurel Lodged (talk) 23:26, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

For example, the Category:Georgian Catholic Church is ( or was ) Eastern Catholic, but it was never a particular church. Laurel Lodged (talk) 23:31, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Reading Catholic particular churches and liturgical rites it looks to me like "particular" is redundant to "sui iuris": anything that is "sui iuris" is also "particular". So we could drop "particular" from the cat name. Also, that article says that sui iuris in this context is interchangable with autonomous, which is a much more common English-language term. So I'd say this should be either Category:Autonomous Eastern Catholic Churches (my preference; "Churches" capitalized because without the formal sui iuris, this could otherwise be mistaken as referring to individual church buildings) or Category:Eastern Catholic churches sui iuris. I think either would be an improvement. - Jmabel ! talk 03:21, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

What about Option 3: Category:Eastern Catholic particular churches which avoids the Latin phrase? Laurel Lodged (talk) 08:13, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Option 4 Category:Eastern Catholic Churches by particular church. @Jmabel: Laurel Lodged (talk) 18:32, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

@Laurel Lodged: wouldn't those latter two include Churches distinguished only be rite, that are not autonomous? - Jmabel ! talk 01:09, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Reading the article again, you may be correct. So it seems that both terms - particular and sui iuris -are necessary to describe the scope of the category. Above all, I'm anxious to avoid confusion with bricks and mortar buildings. @Jmabel: Laurel Lodged (talk) 08:18, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

See also Category:Eastern Catholic church buildings by particular church sui iuris for an example of the above concern. Laurel Lodged (talk) 08:23, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

@Laurel Lodged: Again, as I asked above: isn't "particular" redundant to "sui iuris"? How could it be a "church sui iuris" and not also be a "particular church"? Can you give any example of such a thing? - Jmabel ! talk 08:25, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

The Roman Catholic Church is a particular church but it is not sui iuris; it cannot be independent of itself. Together with the 23 other churches, it comprises the Catholic Church. 23 + 1 = 24 Laurel Lodged (talk) 08:31, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

@Laurel Lodged: But the Roman Catholic Church is not an Eastern Catholic Church. - Jmabel ! talk 20:12, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

You wanted an example - you got an example. The RC Church is 1 of 24 that comprise the Catholic Church Laurel Lodged (talk) 22:36, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

My point is: is there any church that would fall within "Eastern Catholic particular churches sui iuris" but not "Eastern Catholic churches sui iuris", or vice versa? If not then, what reason is there to use the longer cat name? - Jmabel ! talk 01:19, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

The answer is "No". However, the question could also be posed as "Is there any church that would fall within "Eastern Catholic particular churches sui" but not "Eastern Catholic particular churches", or vice versa?". The answer to that too is "No". @Jmabel: Do these answers bring us any closer to a shortened name, if that is indeed what is desired here? Laurel Lodged (talk) 11:16, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

So there is nothing distinguished by autonomy but sharing rite? I didn't know that. I would say, then, that either Category:Eastern Catholic particular churches or Category:Autonomous Eastern Catholic churches would probably be best, with a note at the top explaining the situation a bit more fully. - Jmabel ! talk 19:12, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

The first one gets my vote. Agree that an extensive top note is necesary. Laurel Lodged (talk) 08:58, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Sounds like we now have a clear consensus to move to Category:Eastern Catholic particular churches. I'll also leave a cat redirect, at least for now. - Jmabel ! talk 19:57, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Category:Monarquia Wiki

Qué (what)? 186.175.232.190 04:43, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Deleted, empty -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 22:47, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Category:Byzantine caves in Ashdod

Merged into Ashdod Yam Cemetery Remains מקף־עברי (talk) 10:42, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

@מקף־עברי Just make it a redirect to the new category. Josh (talk) 11:54, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Done. OK מקף־עברי (talk) 23:56, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Please close a category discussion when a proposal has been implemented. See Commons:Categories_for_discussion#Closing_a_discussion for instructions.

And a redirect is not a Template:RedirectThenDelete, but please use Template:Redirect. JopkeB (talk) 14:52, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Category:Dummy Škoda Works near Plzeň

You can ask for a proper deletion request by putting {{SD |C1|correct category name}} on top of the category, see Commons:Criteria for speedy deletion for more information. JopkeB (talk) 15:00, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Deleted, empty -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 22:45, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Category:Enotourism

What is the difference between Category:Enotourism and Category:Wine tourism? Can both have clear descriptions, showing the differences? OR can the first one be merged into the second one? JopkeB (talk) 10:14, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

In EN-WP there is only one page for both concepts. I propose to merge Category:Enotourism into Category:Wine tourism. Keep Wine tourism because that is a more clear term, especially for people who are not familiar with wine terminology. I'll implement this proposal within a month if there are no objections. JopkeB (talk) 11:26, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

This category discussion has been closed.
Consensus	Resolved without objection
Actions	Merge Category:Enotourism into Category:Wine tourism  Done
Participants
Closed by	JopkeB (talk) 05:06, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Category:Public figure

Public Figure Bdmedia247 (talk) 13:26, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

What needs to be discussed here? This is already a working redirect. --Enyavar (talk) 14:19, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Closed as erroneous nomination. --Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 09:42, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Category:Temporär-Kategorie bis zur Klärung der Zulässigkeit des Uploads

temporary category that will need to be deleted  — billinghurst sDrewth 07:38, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

@Billinghurst, Ich habe ein OTRS-Ticket (id=2024012210002356) für die beiden Dateien eröffnet. Wenn es möglich ist, bitte ich darum, entsprechend mit der Löschung bis zum 22. Februar zu warten. Viele Grüße Molgreen (talk) 18:02, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi Molgreen. Oh yes, that was what I was meaning, and I just forgot to add that commentary. Apologies for that miss. I was just laying down the marker.

 temporary directory please delete on completion of its intended purpose, sometime after 2024-02-23  — billinghurst sDrewth 23:53, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

@Billinghurst, Good morning, thank you for your understanding. Best regards Molgreen (talk) 05:17, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

@Billinghurst, Good morning, the category is now empty and can be deleted immediately from my point of view. (Hence my quick delete request) Thanks for the effort in this regard. Best regards --Molgreen (talk) 06:24, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

 Done  — billinghurst sDrewth 02:06, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Category:Ordenamento

Category name seems terribly vague, and it has no parent categories. What is the intended scope of the category?

Looks like, on the one hand, the Brazilian Constitution of 1946, copied from the government website. This is probably ok, copyright-wise, {{PD-BrazilGov}}. On the other hand, there's a number of copies of exams for the Brazilian lawyer association, created and probably copyrighted by the Fundação Getúlio Vargas.

I suggest moving the constitution to Category:Brazilian Constitution of 1946 and deleting the other files. The category can then be deleted as empty. --rimshot^talk 12:47, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

File:CONSTITUIÇÃO DOS ESTADOS UNIDOS DO BRASIL DE 1964.pdf moved to Category:Brazilian Constitution of 1946. @Rimshot: when you say "deleting the other files" do I understand correctly that you mean that they should be nominated for deletion on a copyright basis? Could you possibly go ahead with that on your own, since you seem to be pretty clear on what you think is going on here? - Jmabel ! talk 20:21, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Mass deletion request created. --rimshot^talk 22:16, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

 Done: Deleted, empty after the files were deleted. --rimshot^talk 21:49, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Category:2023-01-28 MUC-KulturTour Antikensammlungen

Kategorie bitte löschen, falsche Jahreszahl, Tippfehler, Wunsch vom Kategorien-Ersteller, korrigierte Kategorie ist inzwischen erstellt Pimpinellus((D)) • MUC•K•T 18:17, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Empty category. You can ask yourself for a speedy deletion, see Template:Speedydelete. JopkeB (talk) 08:00, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

 Done: Deleted as empty. --rimshot^talk 22:02, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Category:Akhtarul Iman

unused category. Empty. 🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦 19:07, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Empty category. You can ask yourself for a speedy deletion, see Template:Speedydelete. --JopkeB (talk) 08:00, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

 Done: Deleted as empty a while ago. --rimshot^talk 22:02, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Category:Wohnhaus (Altjoch)

useless (in German, it means a resident. building), in Althaus are several of these Mateus2019 (talk) 19:21, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Should be renamed to Category:Houses in Altjoch. JopkeB (talk) 08:20, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

 Done: Moved to Category:Houses in Altjoch a per discussion. --rimshot^talk 22:15, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Category:Uncategorized images of american football in Florida

All files in this category is already properly categorized, I don't think this "maintenance" category is useful A1Cafel (talk) 16:30, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

In that case the files that are properly categorized should be removed and the empty category can get a Speedy deletion. JopkeB (talk) 15:24, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

It turns out that indeed all files had at least Category:2014 ACC Championship Game as a category, which has parents like Category:Florida State Seminoles football games. Now this category is empty and can be deleted. --JopkeB (talk) 10:14, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Category:WikiKedis

@Eka343: What is this category about? Please describe. Category:Birds of Bali already exists, why didn't you put the images there? Prototyperspective (talk) 16:48, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Does the category need to be in english? i just want to make one in Balinese for easier search by Balinese speaker. I it's not allowed i"ll delate this. Eka343 (talk) 23:12, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

So if it's only about "Birds of Bali" then the files should be moved there and the cat deleted as empty. Prototyperspective (talk) 23:16, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

 Comment @Eka343, it would be fine to leave a redirect so Balinese speakers will still find the target category. Josh (talk) 11:18, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

So conclusions can be:

1. Move files to Category:Birds of Bali.
2. Make a redirect for this category to Category:Birds of Bali.

When @Prototyperspective, Eka343, and Joshbaumgartner: all agree, then this discussion can be closed and the conclusions can be implemented (I suggest by Prototyperspective). --JopkeB (talk) 06:16, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Agree. I think it would be better if translated redirects were created on a much larger scale and nonmanually if that helps people of other languages find the categories and there's no better alternative approach. This could be coupled somehow to the multilingual category descriptions as well as the name of the corresponding article in the other language Wikipedia. Example: a new redirect Category:Zwierzęta to Category:Animals with |lang=Polish since that is the title of the corresponding article (that doesn't work for combination terms like 'Birds' in 'Bali' though). Prototyperspective (talk) 10:59, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

I don't supposed "WikiKedis" means "Birds of Bali"? Why would a Balinese speaker search for this word? --rimshot^talk 12:31, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

This category discussion has been closed.
Consensus	Resolved without objection
Actions	Move files to Category:Birds of Bali. Make a redirect for this category to Category:Birds of Bali  Done
Participants	Prototyperspective (talk · contribs) Eka343 (talk · contribs) Joshbaumgartner (talk · contribs) Rimshot (talk · contribs)
Notes	A request/wish for automatically generated translated redirects is out of scope of this discussion.
Closed by	JopkeB (talk) 09:48, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Category:Collectif des travailleurs sans-papiers

I cannot find any specific collective of this name, and it is not a general title in English. Nothing found in Wikidata to which to apply it to  — billinghurst sDrewth 06:25, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Empty category, can be deleted. JopkeB (talk) 08:09, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Empty category, I'll ask for a speedy deletion. --JopkeB (talk) 06:36, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Category:House of Moncada

Solicito el cambio de nombre de esta pagina para que especifique que es de la rama siciliana Azahara00 (talk) 16:45, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Translation: I request the name change of this page to specify that it is from the Sicilian branch

 Question How should the category name exactly be? JopkeB (talk) 08:49, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

No changes because there was no reaction in more than three months. --JopkeB (talk) 06:30, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Category:Serpent icons

No clear distinction is made between serpents and snakes. Given this, I believe this category should be deleted, and its contents moved to Category:Snake icons. Alternately, some distinction should be clarified. Ilzolende (talk) 11:21, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

• Agreed, merge. Andy Dingley (talk) 12:52, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

 Agree Merge. JopkeB (talk) 09:20, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

 Resolved by consensus

Category:Serpent icons now redirects to Category:Snake icons.

—Ilzolende (talk) 12:27, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

A discussion only really has been done when the categories for discussion page has been closed. See Commons:Categories for discussion#Closing a discussion for instructions. JopkeB (talk) 15:55, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Oh. Thanks for clarifying, I'll look into that shortly. If anyone has concerns about my category merging I can look into reverting that too. —Ilzolende (talk) 19:19, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

This category discussion has been closed.
Consensus	Resolved by consensus
Actions	done
Participants	Ilzolende (talk · contribs) JopkeB (talk · contribs) Andy Dingley (talk · contribs)
Closed by	Josh (talk) 17:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

 Comment Seconding the comment by JopkeB above, please close the discussion with {{Cfdh}}, {{Cfdf}} tags to ensure it is removed from the backlog and properly archived. Otherwise someone else to come along and clean up after the fact. I don't think there is any issue with the actual category work done, just making sure we aren't clogging up the active discussion list with things that are actually done. Josh (talk) 17:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Category:Cyanistes caeruleus (low quality)

I don't think we need a "maintenance" category for images of low quality A1Cafel (talk) 02:57, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

•  Keep - useful as a 'dumping ground' for low quality images of the subject which may meet criteria for deletion or are otherwise very unlikely ever to be used in any wikipedia context. Placing them here, makes it easier for Commons users to look through other subcategories without having to waste time checking through low quality images where the low quality may not be apparent in the category thumbnails. I have added in some criteria (copied in from another similar 'low quality' subcategory). - MPF (talk) 12:05, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

   Keep for the reasons MPF mentions. JopkeB (talk) 09:22, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Kept. Useful category. --JopkeB (talk) 06:12, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Category:Five kopecks

This category should be renamed to «5 kopecks», as other similar categories have names with digits: 1 kopeck, 2 kopecks etc. Dmitry Fomin (talk) 08:54, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

• I agree. — vvk121 (talk) 09:29, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

support. need a sysop to do that. RZuo (talk) 22:00, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Done DnaX (talk) 18:12, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

This category discussion has been closed.
Consensus	Resolved without objection
Actions	done
Participants	DnaX (talk · contribs) RZuo (talk · contribs) Vvk121 (talk · contribs) Dmitry Fomin (talk · contribs)
Closed by	Josh (talk) 16:58, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

 Comment When implementing discussion results, please close the discussion (with {{Cfdh}} and {{Cfdf}} tags) or ping an experienced CfD participant so the backlog can be cleared. Thanks! Josh (talk) 16:58, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Category:Caricatures by Vitaliy Peskov

The whole category are cartoons of w:Vitaly Peskov who died in 2002, hence all are copyright violations, and the whole category must be deleted. Altenmann (talk) 20:31, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Have you seen VRT permission? --Butko (talk) 20:33, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Perhaps add {{NoUploads}} to the category, see Template:NoUploads. JopkeB (talk) 14:28, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Since the files have VRT permission they should not be deleted for reasons of copyright violation and this discussion can be closed. --JopkeB (talk) 10:23, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

This category discussion has been closed.
Consensus	Resolved without objection
Actions	Add {{NoUploads}} to the category  Done
Participants	Altenmann (talk · contribs) Butko (talk · contribs)
Closed by	JopkeB (talk) 10:23, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Category:Natural language

I don't think this category is necessary, as languages are assumed natural human languages by default, just like media files are assumed images by default in Commons. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 12:15, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

In this case, I think we can do away with it for now. I don't really subscribe to the default argument, however, so if someone was to actually go and put all of the natural languages under this (and name it correctly in the plural form), I could see a purpose as a differentiation from say programming languages or such. However, that is clearly not the case with this at this point, so I am fine with  Delete. Josh (talk) 02:18, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

There are a lot of strange things with this category:

1. It should be in plural, like Josh wrote.
2. It has only one subcategory, while you would expect that it should have all the natural languages of the world (like Josh wrote), from English to local languages in Africa and South America, or at least Category:Languages by family. Or it should be a flat list.
3. I think the opposite is Category:Constructed languages (like Esperanto), so that would be a good reason to keep it and make it a full-fledged category.

JopkeB (talk) 12:16, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

On closer inspection I think it is a lot of work to make this right and I wonder if this work is worth it. So now I agree with Sb1413 and Josh that we can do away with this category for now.

As far as I'm concerned, this discussion can be closed, the subcategory and files can be moved, the category can be deleted. JopkeB (talk) 10:39, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

I agree with your current proposal. As I have said before, languages are assumed to be natural languages by default and files are assumed to be images by default. Similarly, with references to the million-dollar discussion on Category:Countries, the countries should be assumed to be sovereign states by default. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 10:44, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

@JopkeB, @Sbb1413, sounds like we are agreed on deletion--I don't see any objection--so feel free to close and implement. Josh (talk) 16:49, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

This category discussion has been closed.
Consensus	Resolved by consensus
Actions	Move the subcategory + files to appropriate categories and ask for deletion for this category.  Done
Participants	Sbb1413 (talk · contribs) Joshbaumgartner (talk · contribs)
Notes	It turns out that the subcategory and files already had good categories, so I just removed this category. JopkeB (talk) 14:27, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
Closed by	JopkeB (talk) 14:12, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Category:Mountain passes of the Alps

Is this category not a duplicate of Category:Alpine passes? Robby (talk) 10:14, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

• Delete it sure is. Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:33, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
• Merge, redirect. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 20:31, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

 Comment @Robby, Laurel Lodged, and Infrogmation: I was in the process of closing this when I noticed that almost all of the content of Category:Mountain passes by mountain range is in a different format, so:

 Question Which format is best for contents of Category:Mountain passes by mountain range (number of current adherants in ())?

1. "Mountain passes in mountain range" (17)
2. "Mountain passes of mountain range" (10)
3. "mountain range (adjectival form) passes" (1)
4. "mountain range (adjectival form) mountain passes" (1)
5. "Pässe im mountain range" (1): German-language analog of option 1 above.

Form 1 above is best in line with standard Commons category naming practice. "Mountain passes" accurately reflects the parent Category:Mountain passes. "In" is the best descriptor for the relationship here, as the passes are physically located within the mountain range. Form 2 is also a standard practice, but the "of" is less well suited to indicating location. This is not a huge matter, as there aren't exactly other types of relationships (from, by, etc.) we would practically have for mountain passes and ranges, but since 'in' is more precise, it is preferred. As for the other forms, having to use adjectival forms of proper names can be problematic as that is not always as easily or consistently arrived at. Off course the changing German to English should be straight-forward. Since each of those forms are one-offs, I think they can be renamed/merged into the first form listed without much issue.

Any objection to standardizing on Form 1 above as it is both the most widely used and best in line with category naming policy? Josh (talk) 23:53, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

• Option 1 while clunkier is best for navigation. Laurel Lodged (talk) 08:39, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
• Option 1 although not bein a native English speaker.Robby (talk) 15:28, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

This category discussion has been closed.
Consensus	Resolved by consensus
Actions	Merge Category:Alpine passes and Category:Mountain passes of the Alps into Category:Mountain passes in the Alps Rename other children of Category:Mountain passes by mountain range to "Category:Mountain passes in <mountain range>" format
Participants	Laurel Lodged (talk · contribs) Robby (talk · contribs) Infrogmation (talk · contribs)
Closed by	Josh (talk) 22:07, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Category:December 2023 in Cambridge

Recommend to delete - created by accident, no applicable files for category as yet. Hullian111 (talk) 09:45, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

• Keep it's part of a TOC series. Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:33, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
•  Comment As an empty category it is subject to speedy delete, though can be re-created upon applicable contents being added. There are several months in this series with no contents and the categories are non-existant. Generally the correct way to do a series is not to create empty categories pending content, but instead to only create categories for parts of the series that actually have content as the content is added/curated. If content is imminently expected, there is no rush to delete the category, but there is no particular reason to keep it if it remains empty, since it can easily just be re-created when content gets added. Josh (talk) 03:07, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Closed, delete as empty for now, can be recreated if/when there is content. Josh (talk) 00:47, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Category:Hack4fi

Redundant Susanna Ånäs (Susannaanas) (talk) 12:04, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Ie, Category:Hack4FI is correct one. This one can be deleted or marked as redirect using Template:Category redirect if preserving old category for version history is needed. -- Zache (talk) 12:21, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

This category discussion has been closed.
Consensus	Resolved without objection
Actions	Merge Category:Hack4fi into Category:Hack4FI
Participants	Susannaanas (talk · contribs) Zache (talk · contribs)
Closed by	Josh (talk) 00:49, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Category:Secretariat Mosque, Hyderabad

Unused category. Empty 🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦 19:08, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

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Consensus	Resolved without objection
Actions	Speedy delete as empty
Participants	Timtrent (talk · contribs)
Closed by	Josh (talk) 01:42, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Category:Quli Qutb Shah Urban Development Authority

Unused category. Empty 🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦 19:08, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

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Consensus	Resolved without objection
Actions	Speedy delete as empty
Participants	Timtrent (talk · contribs)
Closed by	Josh (talk) 01:59, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Category:Alamgir Mosque, Aurangabad

unused category. Empty 🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦 19:09, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

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Consensus	Resolved without objection
Actions	Speedy delete (C2)
Participants	Timtrent (talk · contribs)
Closed by	Josh (talk) 02:03, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Category:Berlin U-Bahn train type HK

This is actually the correct name of the category, analogous to all the other BVG train types. The same lemma was also used for the train types on the Hamburger Hochbahn. I am therefore in favor of moving the files located in BVG Class HK back here and deleting the BVG Class HK category. Dasas (talk) 17:39, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

I'm taking up this discussion again here. All other rolling stocks have been designated in the same way. I am in favor of moving all files from Category: BVG Class HK back to Category: Berlin U-Bahn train type HK. Dasas (talk) 16:58, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

@Dasas: There are no objections, you can go ahead with the move. Josh (talk) 02:48, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

This category discussion has been closed.
Consensus	Resolved without objection
Actions	Merge Category:BVG Class HK into Category:Berlin U-Bahn train type HK
Participants	Dasas (talk · contribs)
Closed by	Josh (talk) 02:48, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

•  Comment @Dasas: In the future, if you could actually link the categories you are referring to, that would greatly help those of us trying to see what you are proposing. Instead of simply typing "Category: BVG Class HK", you can use "[[:Category:BVG Class HK]]" or "{{cl|BVG Class HK}}" to display Category:BVG Class HK, which is a lot kinder to CfD participants. Thanks! Josh (talk) 02:48, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Category:Parked aircraft by type

Do we really need this cat? We need Category:Aircraft by type. I can see value to Category:Parked aircraft. But this category, and children, is surely just making navigation paths needlessly deep and leading to a duplication into permanent SMALLCAT cats like Category:Parked Airspeed AS.57 Ambassador. This does not add any value to our editors. Maybe for some very widespread types where it can act to diffuse large categories it can, but not as a general requirement on all type cats. If anyone's looking for specific types when parked, use the tools to look directly for that intersection. Andy Dingley (talk) 20:28, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

 Keep: Deletion of this entire index is too broad a stroke for the issues as described, and more detail is needed before making such a move.

@Andy Dingley  Question, or actually a few:

1. Parked Cessna 208 has 111 files in it, so I am sure you can agree this is not a small category, and there are others with even more. Presumably, this is what you mean by "Maybe for some very widespread types"? Are you okay with retaining such categories?
2. Do you have a specific example of the duplication you are finding?
3. What is this "general requirement" you mention? I'm not aware of any such rule forcing the creation or use of these kinds of categories. Can you supply an example or link to where this is laid out?

 Comment There can be several good reasons to retain categories even if they are small (even with a single file). That is not to say that all small categories should be retained, just that being small is not in and of itself automatically a reason to delete a category. I would like to know more about why these categories are a problem before we take to eliminating this index and/or its contents. Josh (talk) 15:25, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

 Comment closing as there is no consensus and there has been no reply or discussion; feel free to reopen if there is something new. Josh (talk) 03:59, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

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Consensus	No consensus
Actions	none
Participants	Andy Dingley (talk · contribs)
Closed by	Josh (talk) 03:59, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Category:Heroes' Cemetery in the Philippines

This should be deleted so that Category:Heroes' Cemetery can be moved into this category title and that "Category:Heroes' Cemetery" (becoming a resulting redirect) is made into a disambiguation page as there are also other identically-named cemeteries in other countries. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 16:34, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

I don't understand: first a category should be deleted and then another one should be moved into it, while it does not exist anymore? Would you please point out exactly what you want, category by category (what should be done with category1, category2, etc), with bullets? And then we can discuss your proposal. JopkeB (talk) 07:52, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

@JopkeB I cannot move Category:Heroes' Cemetery to Category:Heroes' Cemetery in the Philippines because the latter already exists as a redirect. Since a redirect exists, it cannot be made. The redirect should be deleted so that the above category move can be made, and the plain name (with no disambiguation) can be turned into a disambiguation page. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 07:56, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

The category move is to preserve the edit history of Category:Heroes' Cemetery as it is renamed to Category:Heroes' Cemetery in the Philippines. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 07:58, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

I think an administrator can do that, without having to delete the redirect. When there is no reaction from one within two weeks, ask on Commons:Village pump. JopkeB (talk) 16:05, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

@JopkeB I don't think it is a big deal to simply swap the redirect around on these two. Since both will still exist, page history will still be there, so no need to wait on admin intervention unless you really want to. Josh (talk) 01:38, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

@JWilz12345: Are you OK with the solution of Josh? JopkeB (talk) 04:07, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

@JopkeB@Joshbaumgartner since categories are not eligible for copyright or copyleft CC licensing (the contents are not literary works and the files are just automatically included through categorization, not manual addition), perhaps I will manually transfer files to their suited categories, with no need to attribute past creators of the said categories. Anyone can now freely close this CfD to reduce one contribution to perennial CfD backlog. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 08:33, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Done making the transfers.  I withdraw my nomination. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 08:41, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

This category discussion has been closed.
Consensus	Resolved by consensus
Actions	Files and subcategories are now in Category:Heroes' Cemetery in the Philippines and Category:Heroes' Cemetery is now a Disambiguation page  Done by User:JWilz12345
Participants	JWilz12345 (talk · contribs) Joshbaumgartner (talk · contribs)
Closed by	JopkeB (talk) 12:09, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Category:Music Production of Finland

unique country category. Probably to be upmerged to Category:Music of Finland or better if possible Estopedist1 (talk) 13:48, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Music categories are not very well organized neither for Finland nor internationally. However, there is global category category:Music production which seems fo encompass material corresponding to this category. In "Music of Finland" there was very heterogenious material and it would seem logical to collect material related 'music business' in one category. Periegetes (talk) 14:14, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

 Keep but rename to Category:Music production of Finland, because of the arguments by Periegetes. JopkeB (talk) 06:33, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Conclusion and proposal

1. This is a useful category to collect material related to music business in Finland. So it should be kept.
2. But in the category name "Product" should be "product" (not with a capital P but with a lowercase letter).
3. Proposal: Rename this category to Category:Music production of Finland.

@Estopedist1 and Periegetes: Do you agree? If there are no objections on 2024-06-15, I'll close this discussion and implement the proposal. --JopkeB (talk) 09:28, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

I fully support the proposal. Thank you. Periegetes (talk) 07:53, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

@JopkeB I would suggest changing "of" to "in". We don't have Category:Music production by country yet, so no standard yet set for that topic, but Category:Production by country is in "Category:Production in <country>" format. Josh (talk) 23:40, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Josh, good advice. JopkeB (talk) 04:02, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

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This category discussion has been closed.
Consensus	Resolved without objection
Actions	Rename this category to Category:Music production in Finland  Done
Participants	Estopedist1 (talk · contribs) Periegetes (talk · contribs) Joshbaumgartner (talk · contribs)
Notes	I did not keep the original category because it is a bad name and few, if any, people will search for it. JopkeB (talk) 13:19, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
Closed by	JopkeB (talk) 13:10, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Category:Patriot Muda

Three categories (Category:Patriot Muda, Category:Karang Taruna Patriot Muda, Category:Karang Taruna) with a nearly identical essay-length Indonesian-language description for each, all for one logo (identically in all three categories, none of which have any other content). At most there should be one category here, and it should have appropriate parent categories (as of this writing, none of these have any). Jmabel ! talk 21:33, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

And a fourth: Category:Logo Karang Taruna. This one also has a second image of the same logo. - Jmabel ! talk 04:42, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

And a fifth: Category:Logo Karang Taruna Patriot Muda, somewhat different text on the category page, the same one and only file. - Jmabel ! talk 04:44, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

• From what I can gather by searching Google: Karang Taruna is an Indonesian youth organization at a national level, and Karang Taruna Patriot Muda is a local branch of said organization. There is an Indonesian Wikipedia article at w:id:Karang Taruna, but it seems very promotional so I wasn't able to get too much information there. I searched Commons and there are other images of the national organization and other branches' logos (e.g. File:Logo Karta Pajajaran.png, File:Ayuningtyas(1).jpg).

All that said, I think there should be 2 categories distilled from these 5: Category:Karang Taruna for the organization more broadly, and Category:Logos of Karang Taruna for the logos. I don't think Patriot Muda is a thing on its own in this context, and I don't think one logo justifies creating a new category tree for the branch organization Karang Taruna Patriot Muda yet. Clay (talk) 22:22, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Support Clay's opinion and research. If we do the one, no harm in having category redirects to that target.  — billinghurst sDrewth 07:22, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

 Agree on two categories. And much less text, just an indication of what a category is about. Commons is no Wikipedia. JopkeB (talk) 14:09, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Conclusions and proposal

1. There are five categories, all of them:
   1. with a text that is way too long for Commons
   2. with only one and the same file.
2. There is an Indonesian Wikipedia article at w:id:Karang Taruna (but promotional and not very informative).
3. Solution and proposal:
   1. Keep Category:Karang Taruna for the organization more broadly.
   2. Create Category:Logos of Karang Taruna for the logos.
   3. The other four categories can get redirects to the appropriate categories.
   4. Shorten the text in the categories to just an indication of what a category is about.

@Jmabel, Clay, and Billinghurst: If there are no objections on 2024-06-15 I'll close this discussion and implement the proposal. --JopkeB (talk) 06:27, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

• Sounds good to me. - Jmabel ! talk 17:51, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

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This category discussion has been closed.
Consensus	Resolved without objection
Actions	See Conclusions and proposal.  Done
Participants	Jmabel (talk · contribs) Clay (talk · contribs) billinghurst (talk · contribs)
Notes	Moved the texts to the Talk pages of the categories
Closed by	JopkeB (talk) 12:27, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Category:Files from the Hack4fi 2018

remove as redundant Susanna Ånäs (Susannaanas) (talk) 11:45, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

It is a redirect and all redirects are kind of redundant by their nature, so redundancy alone doesn't make for a very good reason to delete a redirect. However I get why this doesn't seem a very useful redirect given the similarity in name to the target, so I am fine with either delete or keep in this case. Josh (talk) 03:09, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Since you created the category, Susanna Ånäs (Susannaanas), and don't think it is useful, I will go ahead and delete it. --Kritzolina (talk) 08:43, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

 Done: deleting per nomination. --Kritzolina (talk) 08:43, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Category:Solapur University Prakalp

I think (but not confidently enough to add parent categories) that "Prakalp" here is just "project", and this is some sort of Wikimedia event or organization at University of Solapur. Is that correct, and can someone explain the nature of the event or organization? Jmabel ! talk 22:53, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

@Suyash.dwivedi, can you help us to get clarity here? Do you know any of the uploaders of pictures in this category, if you can't explain the category yourself? Kritzolina (talk) 08:38, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Yes, that's correct @Jmabel. 'Prakalp' here simply means 'project,' as I can read from the banner. The event was a State-level Marathi Wikipedia Workshop, organized with the help of CISA2K.-- Suyash Dwivedi (talk) 15:10, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

@Suyash.dwivedi: can you add appropriate parent categories, which would resolve the issue here? All categories should have parent categories. - Jmabel ! talk 17:23, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

 Done -- Suyash Dwivedi (talk) 17:51, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Resolved now that this has parent categories. - Jmabel ! talk 18:10, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Category:Home Nations

Anglo-centric twaddle. Please delete this patronising propaganda. Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:13, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Merge Category:Home Nations into Category:Constituent countries of the United Kingdom which this cat is completely redundant to. Josh (talk) 02:24, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Support Suggestion of Joshbaumgartner -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 20:32, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

 Weak keep — The term refers to the Category:Constituent countries of the United Kingdom, along with Category:England and Wales and Category:Ireland. The category is useful in the context of sports. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 09:32, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Then why are there no sporting members in the category? Their absence suggests that it is indeed redundant. Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:33, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Closing the discussion with redirect to Constituent countries of the United Kingdom. Even my keep !vote was weak, so the consensus is not to keep this category. --Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 14:18, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Category:Community projects 2023

Seems to me that this should have a more specific name. "Community projects" is awfully broad. With no parent categories, I can't really even guess the intended breadth of scope of this category, which looks like it takes in two Spanish-language Wikimedia events in Argentina and none elsewhere (but is that an intended limitation? or just that things haven't been placed in this vaguely-named category?). Jmabel ! talk 04:44, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

@Jmabel Agreed. Whether the limitation is intentional or not, it is the current case, so renaming as Category:Community projects of Wikimedia Argentina in 2023 as a sub of Category:Community projects of Wikimedia Argentina would be more clear about the contents and satisfy the Universality Principle, Modularity Principle and Hierarchic Principle. Josh (talk) 22:01, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

I'd be fine with that, and the user who created the category has not weighed in. - Jmabel ! talk 22:41, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Done :) Mauricio V. Genta (talk) 07:57, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Resolved, moved/deleted. - Jmabel ! talk 19:54, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Category:Feldbackofen auf Fahrgestell 2-Rad 1,5t

category is overly descriptive and won't be further populated; if it is a brand, let us properly identify  — billinghurst sDrewth 02:25, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

There is only one file, no subcategories, no parents. My proposal: move the file to other appropriate categories and delete this category. JopkeB (talk) 07:24, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Conclusions and proposal

1. This category has only one file, no subcategories, no parents.
2. The file already has one good other parent category.
3. This category won't be further populated.
4. Proposal:
   1. Give the file other parent categories for an army field oven in the logistics teaching collection - Logistics School of the Bundeswehr.
   2. Ask for deletion of this category.

@Billinghurst: Do you agree? If there are no objections on 2024-06-16 then I'll close this discussion an implement the proposal. --JopkeB (talk) 09:18, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

@JopkeB @Billinghurst  Keep. This is a specific model of military equipment, and the category name is the official name/designation of it. For aircraft, vehicles, weapons, military equipment, and such it is fine to have a category for a specific model even if there is only one image currently hosted. This includes cases where there is only likely to ever be one image, such as rare models or prototypes from long ago which no longer have a surviving example. In this case, since there is at least one surviving example on public display, I wouldn't assume we will never add more images in the future. I get that field kitchens aren't as popularly published as fighter jets and main battle tanks, but that's no reason not to keep it...I would argue it even is more valuable since it is no doubt harder to find for researchers than pics of an F-16 or T-72. Josh (talk) 01:35, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

@Joshbaumgartner: As I said, if it is a "brand" then let us proprerly identify. Sitting in "field kitchens", with the name as is, doesn't seem like a specific make and model. Fixing it up with resulting categorisation would be helpful.  — billinghurst sDrewth 05:18, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

@Billinghurst What do you mean by 'brand'? Military equipment isn't generally branded like commercial products (there are certainly exceptions). Exactly how much more specific do you expect this one to get? Josh (talk) 00:03, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

@Joshbaumgartner: Was solely thinking manufacturer. Something for us ignorant English speakers to know/identify that this is a specific model (pick your noun) rather than a literal name. I'm not up with the military categorisation, so happy to let the standard be followed, and simply identifying that this it is manufactured under the name.  — billinghurst sDrewth 22:01, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

@Billinghurst Got it. Manufacturers for military equipment aren't always relevant. For aircraft they can be commonly included, and some military designation schemes do include the manufacturer, but for most things and systems, they are not. A lot of equipment is manufacturer-agnostic, meaning that many companies may be contracted to manufacture the item, and through much of history, items such as weaponry and ships were commonly made by the military or government themselves, and so including a manufacturer name isn't really appropriate for things like Panzerkampfwagen IV or M47 Patton. Obviously, if the manufacturer is commonly included in the designation/name, then it can make sense to have it there, such as with the 100 mm Schneider-Creusot M1917/24. In the case of the nominated category, including the manufacturer name, if indeed it even has a specific one, would not really be of assistance, since it would be incongruent with how that equipment is commonly referred to. Josh (talk) 22:59, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

@JopkeB There are now 3 photographs in the category. Josh (talk) 00:15, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

For me that is enough to keep it. But perhaps:

• The category should be renamed to English: Field oven on chassis 2-wheel 1.5t?
• We need a second parent?

@Joshbaumgartner and Billinghurst: Agree? Do you know a better category name and/or a second parent? JopkeB (talk) 03:54, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

@JopkeB Additional relevant parent categories are great, and I should think they hardly need a CfD unless someone takes issue with them (I've added a couple more but feel free to do so as well, or find better ones than what I found).

The category should remain in German, exactly as designated by the German military, for the same reason we don't translate Category:Panzerkampfwagen IV to "Tank IV" or "Armored Combat Vehicle IV" or whatever other translation for Panzerkampfwagen might exist. Josh (talk) 04:05, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, @Joshbaumgartner: for adding more parent categories. Stange exception for the name, though. Shouldn't the category name be extended with "(Deutschland)" or "(Germany)"? It could easily be about Austria or Switzerland as well, also German speaking countries. And now you only know it because of one parent you added. JopkeB (talk) 09:18, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

@JopkeB I'm a bit confused...the category isn't really about Germany. It is a piece of equipment that happens to be part of the German military, but it need not be exclusive to it. A lot of equipment serves in multiple militaries. We don't use Panzerkampfwagen IV (Germany) or M47 Patton (United States), we just use Panzerkampfwagen IV and M47 Patton. The only case where we would add (Germany) or (Austria) dab info to the name is if there were identically named but different equipment designated by the different countries. This is rare, though not unheard of, so we should not add the dab by default.

I don't think that keeping the name in German is a strange exception. We don't generally translate proper names that don't have either an official or commonly used English translation. Josh (talk) 23:10, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

OK, Josh, thanks for the explanation.

New conclusions:

1. The category should be kept. It has now three files, that is enough for a category.
2. It now has good parents. It is not about a brand, but German for Field oven on chassis 2-wheel 1.5t, so it does not need a parent for a brand.
3. The category should not be renamed, it has a correct name.

@Billinghurst and Joshbaumgartner: Do you agree? If yes, then this discussion can be closed. JopkeB (talk) 04:34, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

@JopkeB Agreed. If someone knows the manufacturer for this equipment, it can be added as a parent category at that point of course, I only added the parents I felt confident with. Thanks for the summation. Josh (talk) 18:53, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

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This category discussion has been closed.
Consensus	Resolved without objection
Actions	None
Participants	billinghurst (talk · contribs) Joshbaumgartner (talk · contribs)
Closed by	JopkeB (talk) 03:47, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Category:Turbine houses

Category:Turbine_houses and Category:Turbine halls for me seem to describe the same concept. Just eventually on different scales and separating the facets of outer and inner views. I propose to merge these categories and the corresponding Wikidata items as well. Herzi Pinki (talk) 12:04, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

 Keep both, scale does matter. And it looks like the halls are only about the inside, while the houses are about inside and outside. I suggest to make a better category structure, so that they are better connected. JopkeB (talk) 08:33, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Since there were no objections against keeping this category in seven months, I close this discussion. --JopkeB (talk) 04:04, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

This category discussion has been closed.
Consensus	Resolved without objection
Actions	None
Participants	Herzi Pinki (talk · contribs)
Notes	I have made this category a subcategory of Category:Turbines (turbomachine component) to connect both categories.
Closed by	JopkeB (talk) 04:04, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Category:Polygraph

Why is the category name singular rather than plural? Jmabel ! talk 06:31, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

•  Support plural form. Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:22, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
• Rename Category:Polygraph to Category:Polygraphs Josh (talk) 03:27, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

This category discussion has been closed.
Consensus	Resolved by consensus
Actions	Done
Participants	Jmabel (talk · contribs) Laurel Lodged (talk · contribs) Joshbaumgartner (talk · contribs)
Notes	I moved everything Category:Polygraphs and nominated the category for deletion.
Closed by	--Adamant1 (talk) 06:06, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

Category:Partial cloud cover

nearly an empty cat with probably many thousands of images on WMC within its scope that probably would be better to inverse to "Full cloud cover" Prototyperspective (talk) 11:29, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Delete category If there were some structure and interest in categorizing sky images by the level of cloud cover, I'd say keep, but besides the specific Category:Overcast, this category is a lone bit with only one image, so I'd say delete for now, unless someone really wants to start sorting sky images by level of cloud cover. Josh (talk) 23:34, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

 Done: deleted per discussion. --✗plicit 03:48, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Category:Uncategorized Flora Batava images

All files in this category is already properly categorized, I don't think this "maintenance" category is useful A1Cafel (talk) 16:33, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

 Done: per nomination. --✗plicit 03:50, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Category:Intrusions from Hrappsey volcano

No such thing. Hrappsey is an island and is not part of an active volcanic system. Snævar (talk) 19:45, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

 Done: per nomination. --✗plicit 03:54, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Category:Alan Wilson (guitarist)

Pretty sure this should be merged to Category:Alan Wilson (musician). Jmabel ! talk 00:16, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

 Done: content merged. --✗plicit 03:55, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Category:Iki-jinja

rename it to Category:Iki-jinja (Nagasaki) to contrast with Category:Iki-jinja (Fukuoka) Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 18:14, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

 Done: Disambiguated as per request. --rimshot^talk 22:48, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

Category:Old maps of Constantinople

Not really different than Category:Old maps of Istanbul, and no point to have both categories to show the maps of the same city (Constantinople is just the former name of the city). Nanahuatl (talk) 08:32, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose They predate the Fall of Constantinople. Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:27, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

  @Laurel Lodged: , the name continued to be used until 1930, officialy. But we don't have "maps of New Amsterdam" or similar categories, do we? Nanahuatl (talk) 17:39, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

  Actually we do - Category:Maps of New Amsterdam, USA. And why wouldn't we? How else would you find such 16th century maps among a morass of modern maps? Laurel Lodged (talk) 13:53, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

•  Keep: For the same reason Constantinople is not a redirect to Istanbul. Josh (talk) 03:52, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: Kept as per discussion. --rimshot^talk 21:48, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Category:Quaker

Why is the category name singular? Normally such categories have plural names. Jmabel ! talk 03:54, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

•  Support even the Wikipedia article is in the plural. Crouch, Swale (talk) 14:53, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
•  Support per nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:19, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
•  Support seems an uncontroversial pluralization fix. Josh (talk) 02:12, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
•  Support this is apparently an error due to the extend of it when created in 2007: the whole of "Quakerism". The Category:Quakerism was created in 2014, a more correct approach would then have been to rename Cat:Quaker in Cat:Quakerism, and add a new Cat:Quakers. MHM (talk) 15:48, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

 Done: Moved to Category:Quakers. --rimshot^talk 21:11, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Category:Kathleen Biden

The category for Hunter Biden's second wife is under her original name. Since Ms Buhle, Hunter Biden's first wife, returned to her maiden name, after the divorce, should we rename this category, for consistency? Her memoir, her biggest claim to notability, is published under Kathleen Buhle... Geo Swan (talk) 17:52, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

 Support Living people should be categorized under their current chosen public name. Josh (talk) 17:08, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

 Done: moved to Category:Kathleen Buhle. --P 1 9 9  ✉ 13:58, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Category:Sahodaran Ayyappan Memorial at Cherayi Vinayaraj

Category:Sahodaran Ayyappan Memorial at Cherayi Vinayaraj and Category:Sahodaran Ayyappan Memorial at Cherayi overlap in content. Neither has any topical parent categories. Should they be merged? If not, what is the difference between the two? And, in any case, these should get topical categories at least for location, and probably for the nature of what these portray. Jmabel ! talk 05:54, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

I think I see part of what's going on: the former is a user category, which is fine, but it should be more clearly named (something like Category:Sahodaran Ayyappan Memorial at Cherayi (photos by Vinayaraj)). The latter still presumably needs topical parent categories. - Jmabel ! talk 05:58, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

 Done: one category deleted as empty, and parent categories added to the other. --P 1 9 9  ✉ 15:36, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Category:Bryn Pryor's Corruption Party to check

Many images of non-notable individuals (I have listed some individually but probably should be bundled into this nom), numerous "unknown starlets". unlikely to be of encyclopedic value or satisfy COM:EDUSE in any case. GnocchiFan (talk) 21:43, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

• Delete as non-notable. Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:35, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
• Delete the category, should just be in parent category Category:Bryn Pryor's Corruption Party. Note: Do not delete image in the category without deletion requests - many images labeled as "unknown starlets" can be seen be things like "Sophie Dee (actress with articles in more than 20 languages) with unknown starlet", and presumably even images without a person identified by name may be useful illustrations of the event. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 20:47, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: procedural closure: out of scope images should be nominated for deletion with the COM:DEL process. Once all images have been checked (either deleted or properly categorized), this category can be deleted as empty. --P 1 9 9  ✉ 17:45, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Category:Communes Documentation Project ( oued nfifikh)

@Mounir Neddi: Why did you remove Category:Communes Documentation Project - Supported by Wikimedia Morocco here? Prototyperspective (talk) 20:08, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Prototyperspective

Oued nfifikh is a river, not a commune Mounir Neddi (talk) 10:19, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Could you please add another relevant category then? Maybe the cat should be deleted and the files be moved to a new Category:Oued nfifikh? Prototyperspective (talk) 16:11, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

This category is a subcat of Category:Communes Documentation Project (Mellila commune) so that seems fine. This is not a topical category, so the files can stay here as part of the project category, but should also have correct topical categories added. Perhaps one specific to this waterway as suggested by Prototyperspective or at least somewhere under Rivers of Morocco or such. Josh (talk) 02:11, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: doesn't require admin action, just categorize the images as needed. --P 1 9 9  ✉ 18:05, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Category:Cyrillic square

I suspect the title of this could be improved. If it is a proper noun, then "Square" should be capitalized. However, I find little basis for this English-language name other than it being a near-literal translation of the Serbian "Трг од ћирилице" ("Trg od ćirilice"). Jmabel ! talk 06:48, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

 Done: redirected to Category:Trg od ćirilice. --P 1 9 9  ✉ 18:23, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Category:SVG military coats of arms of the Royal Life Guards (Denmark)

I believe the files in this category contains an image of a copyrighted symbol. 192.38.90.21 09:56, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

According to this website https://www.kongehuset.dk/en/succession-of-the-throne#download-official-portraits-and-the-royal-crown, the royal danish crown can only be used by The Royal House of Denmark, state institutions and the companies that hold the Royal Warrant. 192.38.90.21 10:00, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

What does 'use' mean though? We have a similar restriction in the UK, but it applies to businesses using it for promotional purposes, to imply that the company carries some form of Royal Warrant. It is not a copyright issue, and it would not restrict my ability (as an artist or photographer) to reproduce this symbol in connection with an organisation that does have a legitimate warrant to use it. Andy Dingley (talk) 12:48, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: procedural closure: copyvios need to be deleted via the COM:DEL process, category itself is not affected. --P 1 9 9  ✉ 18:28, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Category:Countries of the Antarctic

Propose deleting Category:Countries of the Antarctic and Category:Countries of the Antarctic by name because 1) there are no actual countries in Antarctica, only claimed territories, and 2) the entries in the categories are not countries. The claimed territories are covered by Category:Claimed territories of Antarctica. Auntof6 (talk) 07:43, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Redirect Countries of the Antarctic to Claimed territories of Antarctica and rename Countries of the Antarctic by name to Claimed territories of Antarctica by name for now, since there's a CFD on the Countries category. --Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 08:01, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

 Support  Redirect Category:Countries of the Antarctic to Category:Claimed territories of Antarctica Josh (talk) 01:52, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Delete Category:Countries of the Antarctic by name and move contents up to parent. This was actually orphaned so I added the natural parent, but I think the contents can simply upmerge, no need to keep them segregated down in a 'by name' index. Josh (talk) 01:52, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

 Done: per above. --P 1 9 9  ✉ 18:47, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Category:CW Television Network

Redundant to Category:The CW Television Network. (The network has not actually changed its name; "The" was only removed from the visual logo.) WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 22:46, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

 Done: redirected. --P 1 9 9  ✉ 18:51, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Category:CW Television Network logos

As with its parent category, this would be redundant to Category:The CW logos if it actually contained anything. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 22:48, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

•  Move to Category:The CW logos because either two categories contained the similar content about The CW logos, so merging them into single category is more necessary with CW Television Network is a redirect link to that already created page. Yayan550 (talk) 05:02, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

 Done: redirected. --P 1 9 9  ✉ 18:50, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Category:Microstates of Europe

Subjective definition of "micro state": most entries are internationally recognised sovereign states. Should be deleted. Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:22, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

 Keep — the category uses the Wikipedia definition of European microstates, "The European microstates or European ministates are a set of very small sovereign states in Europe. In modern contexts the term is typically used to refer to the six smallest states in Europe by area: Andorra, Liechtenstein, Malta, Monaco, San Marino, and Vatican City (the Holy See)." I can't understand why microstates can't be internationally recognised sovereign states. I think you are confusing microstates (small sovereign states) with micronations (unrecognised paper states). Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 16:28, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

No confusion involved. I'm aware of both. It still reeks of Original Research. Even in Wiki, there is no agreement as to the definition. It's entirely subjective: one man's small is another man's OK. Is Abkhazia a microstate if Russia says that it is? Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:35, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

If this category is deleted on subjective grounds, then the entire Microstates hierarchy should be deleted instead of just this category. However, we need to categorise the maps that purportedly show microstates. We have 8 or more maps that show microstates of Europe, and Microstates of Europe is useful for that purpose. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 16:44, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

I suggest Category:Political maps of Europe as a suitable home. And yes, I would not oppose the deletion of micronations but will not nominate it at this time. Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:52, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

"...entire Microstates hierarchy" - it's scarcely a hierarchy. One parent & child. Burn both. Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:57, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

 Keep per Sbb1413 --Микола Василечко (talk) 13:49, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: no consensus for deletion. --P 1 9 9  ✉ 14:31, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Category:Dairies in Uruguay

Empty category, doesn't have content Sadads (talk) 16:49, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

• Keep. Now it has a content: Lapataia. --Fadesga (talk) 09:45, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: per User:Fadesga. --P 1 9 9  ✉ 14:32, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Category:Bill Blair (police chief)

This Category should be renamed from Bill Blair (police chief) to Bill Blair (politician) to reflect his current occupation. He is no longer a police chief and is now presently a politician in the federal government of Canada. PascalHD (talk) 23:24, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

 Support: for dab info, the most general term that is sufficient to disambiguate is preferred. We don't want to be more specific than necessary, lest we be chasing down category name changes every time someone tweaks their job title. We don't even have any other Bill Blair categories, so the dab is almost unnecessary at all. Josh (talk) 02:30, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

 Support, per @PascalHD and @Joshbaumgartner. I just added another new file with him as Canada's Defense Minister. --Ooligan (talk) 15:24, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

 Done: moved to Category:Bill Blair. --P 1 9 9  ✉ 18:56, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Category:Figura pública

What is the intent of this category? There is an image on the page that is not in the category; there are three files in the category, pictures of people with no apparent relation to one another. The category name merely means "public figure" in Spanish and Portuguese. Jmabel ! talk 03:47, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

 Redirect to Celebrities. Remove any content that are not celebrities. Josh (talk) 02:26, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

There are d:Q662729, articles on 30 projects and no commons cat. Not sure if Celebrities (d:Q211236) matches fully, but I do not oppose redirecting. --Achim55 (talk) 12:48, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Most of the articles linked to public figure (Q662729) are about the legal concept of a public figure, often in relation to US law. This is a somewhat vague term, even in law, and isn't especially useful for categorizing media or categories. If a person is a public figure, that's because they've been involved in something significant - e.g. they're an artist, they're a politician, they're an activist, etc - and it should be possible to apply a more specific category related to that. Omphalographer (talk) 19:22, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

I agree with {Omphalographer that is not a useful Commons categorization. It would probably apply to the majority (or close) of living people whose pictures are on Commons. - Jmabel ! talk 21:07, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

 Done: deleted per comments above, too vague category. --P 1 9 9  ✉ 14:41, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Category:Dzhuchi-khan Mausoleum

Rename to “Jochi Mausoleum” as this is Name used (also on wikidata) for the person buried. Qualitätssicherung (talk) 11:31, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

 Done: per nom. --P 1 9 9  ✉ 19:01, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Category:Partisan monuments in Železniki

it is empty Hladnikm (talk) 14:26, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

 Speedy delete as empty. Can be re-created if content is added. Josh (talk) 00:35, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

 Done: per nom. --P 1 9 9  ✉ 14:43, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Category:Jcb tem cat

what's this category for? delete if not needed anymore.

it's not linked from anywhere.

cat creator's contribs history doesnt give a clue. https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&end=2019-02-22&namespace=all&start=&tagfilter=&target=%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF+%D8%B9%D8%A7%D8%AF%D9%84+%D9%88%D9%87%D8%A8%D8%A9+%D8%AE%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%84+2&offset=20190219114057&limit=500

is the cat title a reference to User:Jcb? do you know what this is about? RZuo (talk) 21:48, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

The cat was never meant to be created, it was added to files to assist the deletion process and Yann failed to remove it on undeletion. Jcb (talk) 22:02, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

 Done: deleted. As stated, serves no purpose anymore. --P 1 9 9  ✉ 14:45, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Category:William Ward

This category currently appears to be a conflation of at least two people of this name, possibly even more. Jmabel ! talk 02:38, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

•  Support w:William Ward is a DAB but I'm not sure which this is for. Crouch, Swale (talk) 15:56, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
• If we make it a DAB here, it should include Category:William Ward (American artist) (no en-wiki equivalent); I ran into it when I was adding that. - Jmabel ! talk 00:03, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

 Done: turned into a disambig category. --P 1 9 9  ✉ 15:18, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Category:Illuminated address

@Melstar72: What do you mean with "Illuminated address"? Is that the title of something or a type of communication? Please add relevant categories. Prototyperspective (talk) 11:09, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Illuminated address apparently are a kind of successors to Category:Illuminated manuscripts. They were created to commemorate persons or achievements (source). As such, the category could go in Category:Commemorative objects and Category:Illuminated manuscripts. The name should be Illuminated addresses, though, because category names are supposed to be in plural. --rimshot^talk 13:07, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

In the United Kingdom, "illuminated address" was the common term for highly-decorated, written testimonials (as the word was understood at that time) i.e. statements of achievement and appreciation, presented to important personages, celebrities and high achievers on ceremonial occasions. They were frequently presented to mayors, aristocrats and other celebrities when they opened civic buildings, for example. Although the illuminated addresses might look from a distance like mediaeval illuminated manuscripts, they were very much a product of their time. They were usually a large, rolled-up sheet encased in a special presentation box or wrapping. Many of them were in long, carved oak boxes or craftsman-made long, silver boxes to fit the scroll. Many British museums and local councils have the boxes and/or scrolls in their collections. I agree that the category should be changed to "Illuninated addresses" (plural), but the category should not be deleted or represented as something which it is not. I have recently taken some pictures of the scroll-boxes, which I shall upload in due course. Storye book (talk) 16:34, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

 Done: moved to plural term, and categorized. --P 1 9 9  ✉ 16:08, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Category:GWR 4073 Class 4079 Pendennis Castle (all files)

This category is unnecessary as it merely duplicates other categories. The same set of pictures appears in Category:GWR 4073 Class 4079 Pendennis Castle in the United Kingdom and Category:GWR 4073 Class 4079 Pendennis Castle in GWR Brunswick Green livery Murgatroyd49 (talk) 09:00, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

See Category:LNER Class A3 4472 Flying Scotsman (all files) too

This seems to be a well-intentioned attempt to flatten the hierarchy of subcategories for these locos. However we don't generally do that (some editors are insistent that we should) and it's hard work to maintain it. A much better way is to use Petscan or similar tools (if they ever work though).

So  Delete both of these, and any others that come up.Andy Dingley (talk) 02:29, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

 Done: deleted. At Commons we don't use non-diffusing or all-inclusive categories. --P 1 9 9  ✉ 16:16, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Category:Sockpuppets of Anonymous Hong Kong Photographer 1

Move to "Accounts of Anonymous Hong Kong Photographer 1" or similar, because:

1. The term "sockpuppet" implies misuse.^[1]
2. This user's accounts are not used to disrupt commons. They are simply accounts used to upload different sets of educational photos. RZuo (talk) 10:53, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

• Pinging @Fæ: as the creator of the "Category:Photographs by Anonymous Hong Kong Photographer 1" Category page. Note that they said that they prefer to be reached by e-mail 📨. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 11:53, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
• Keep as is, per Commons:Village pump/Archive/2024/01#Problematic file names and irrelevant categorization by sockpuppet group and User talk:Taivo#Anonymous Hong Kong Photographer 1, account group is clearly engaging in systematic disruption by intentionally falsely naming and categorising hundreds to thousands of files. As an additional note: sysop The Squirrel Conspiracy declined the category rename request once already. --LuciferianThomas 08:13, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
• Keep as is - "Sockpuppets of [user]" is the formula that {{Sockpuppet}} expects. Also, there is no legitimate explanation for someone having nearly 400 accounts. Regardless of anything else they've done, that alone is misuse. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 08:33, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

  there is no need for any explanation for having multiple accounts. their use of multiple accounts is not what https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Sock_puppetry defines. RZuo (talk) 09:02, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

  I replicated the first few lines of that page below. Having 400 accounts is definitely "contrary to accepted practices of the community". It also says "Where a user has multiple accounts it is an expectation that they publicly disclose those accounts" and they didn't do that. I'm not sure why you're dead-set on defending and enabling this behavior, but I very much do not think policy is on your side here. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 22:18, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

  an expectation is not a requirement.

  there's no commons policy that forbids this usage of multiple accounts.

  since there isnt anything on commons that defines misuse of multiple accounts, one way you can try to prove they are "contrary to accepted practices of the community", is go com:rfcu and see if the checkusers will entertain your requests at all. another way is, start a discussion on a general forum.

  what this user is essentially doing is merely uploading photos using different accounts. what is the disruption by doing this? you cannot argue that they are hiding their identity either, because they edit in such a unique personal style that even with different accounts you can easily see they're the same user.

  on the other hand, there have been in the past more than 1 discussions about this user. conclusion is let them be.

  now the question should be, why some users are so hostile to a long-time (since 2006?) commons user who has contributed 90000+ photos? what justifies your hostility? RZuo (talk) 07:40, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: no consensus. --P 1 9 9  ✉ 16:21, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Category:Amy Coney Barrett before 2020

IMO it is unnecessary to use "before" and a certain year, and why user 2020 as the cut-off? A1Cafel (talk) 04:07, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Why user 2020 as the cut-off? Because that's the year she was nominated to the US Supreme Court, I suppose. All four of these photos happen to be from 2018, so it might be more appropriate to rename to that - but there's nothing terribly wrong with the current name either. Omphalographer (talk) 00:48, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

If all the images were taken in 2018, why can't we use "Category:Amy Coney Barrett in 2018"? The current name is nothing terribly wrong, but also not the best. --A1Cafel (talk) 11:26, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

 Done: moved to Category:Amy Coney Barrett in 2018, as per User:A1Cafel; most logical solution since all images are from 2018. --P 1 9 9  ✉ 16:26, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Category:NBC Nightly News Weekend Edition

Not sure the weekend edition of NBC Nightly News actually merits a separate category. All three files in it are logos and would seem to more logically fit in Category:NBC Nightly News logos; two of them are already in it. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 02:04, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

 Done: closing discussion: already redirected. --P 1 9 9  ✉ 16:30, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Category:SVG road signs of Texas

All files from Category:SVG road signs of Texas should be moved to Category:SVG road signs in Texas — replace "of" with "in" in the category name. Delete the category with "of", a category with "in" should be left. WWBM (talk) 16:10, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

That's fine by me. — Jerome Potts (talk) 21:45, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

It appears "in" is the commonly used preposition for this topic. "Of" is actually probably better, but for now, this one should be changed to fit the group per the Universality Principle, unless and until a decision is made to change all states to "of" (not holding my breath). Josh (talk) 12:09, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

 Done: redirected. --P 1 9 9  ✉ 16:32, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Category:Alghe

What is this category supposed to be? It has no parent categories, and looking at its members I can't see what they have to do with the category name, which is Italian for "algae". Am I misunderstanding even what language was used for the category name? Jmabel ! talk 08:21, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

 Done: Empty category created by globally locked user. --The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 07:08, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

Category:Female buttocks

Esta foto nunca fue autorizada por mi persona, misma foto fue subida por mi expareja para desprestigiarme y quedarse con la patria potestad de mis hijos, por lo que se presentó denuncia penal por ley Olimpia y pornografía de venganza en Ciudad Guzmán Jalisco, bajo averiguación previa 3048/2021, dentro de la misma se me otorgaron Medidas de protección otorgadas por la fiscalia del Estado de Jalisco. Por lo que solicito sea Elimina. 2806:261:490:8719:A908:ADAB:1352:F899 11:45, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Merge Category:Female buttocks into Category:Female human buttocks. I presume the comment above is in regard to the one file directly in this directory, which is already nominated for deletion at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Cum shot on butt.jpg. Presuming that DR will be concluded shortly in favor of deletion, that file will be gone and there will be nothing in this category except Category:Female human buttocks. I propose that this category be merged into that one, regardless of the DR outcome, as this level is unnecessary. Josh (talk) 11:53, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

First, I note that Commons:Deletion requests/File:Cum shot on butt.jpg has been closed with a result of keep, and the file has been moved to Category:Female human buttocks

Outcome of this request:

• Delete Category:Female buttocks, which now contains only Category:Female human buttocks.
• For consistency, also delete Category:Male buttocks, which contains only Category:Male human buttocks.

This can be revisited if we ever have media for male or female non-human buttocks. --Auntof6 (talk) 07:26, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Category:Leonard of Noblac

Duplicate of Category:Saint Leonard. The whole category tree was created (apparently, I didn't check every single category) by @Themightyquill: . I assume the starting point was this discussion, which is still marked as open in Category:Saint Leonard, but the name change was only partially implemented and now we have two parallel category trees for the same saint. This needs to be fixed, with one name or the other (either is fine by me). Syrio posso aiutare? 13:30, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Given the number of people named Saint Leonard, using Category:Leonard of Noblac for this one saint seems obvious. But actually correctly sorting all the content that has been placed in Category:Saint Leonard and its subcategories over the years is less easy. First step is to change the wikidata links attached Category:Saint Leonard toward that disambiguation page. -- Themightyquill (talk) 11:38, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

With all due respect, what seems obvious to me is that you cannot start forking such a big category and then leave it halfway done like that.

Moving the images is non that difficult anyway: while there are several saints with the name, "the" saint Leonard is Leonard of Noblac, and even without assuming that everything in that category is about him, he can be easily linked to most of them. -- Syrio posso aiutare? 13:28, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Close -- Category:Saint Leonard has been changed to a disambiguation cat. Also closed the related discussion Commons:Categories for discussion/2019/08/Category:Saint Leonard. --Auntof6 (talk) 08:33, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Category:States

As per Wikipedia, there are several types of states, namely sovereign states, nation states, constituent states etc. However, this category deals with only constituent states, or more specifically, federated states. I have created Constituent states and Sovereign states for this and moved the info present in States to the respective subcats. However, JopkeB reverted my edits, citing info loss. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 17:09, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Good to start this discussion.

What I want is, that it is absolutely clear to visitors who are not familiar with the exact meanings of and differences between states, countries, constituent states, sovereign states and so on, what each of these categories is about. Yesterday I was confused because only the Wikidata item was left and that was not enough for me to understand what this category is about, so I reverted your edits. I hope that you can give here an overview of the involved categories with short descriptions and your view of the category structure. Perhaps we can include this overview (with links) in all of the involved categories when this discussion has been closed. JopkeB (talk) 06:15, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

• Disambiguate per Wikipedia. Crouch, Swale (talk) 15:21, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

  @Crouch, Swale: Could you perhaps be more specific? What Wikipedia page(s) do you refer to? JopkeB (talk) 15:23, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

  @JopkeB: w:State, of which w:States redirects to. Crouch, Swale (talk) 15:25, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

  OK, thanks for your quick reply. JopkeB (talk) 15:29, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose disambiguation — While there are several things that can be called "states", the States category should focus on states as a type of polity, including sovereign states and constituent states. Also, the States and territories by year of establishment category tree should drop the term "states", as all states (sovereign or constituent) may be considered as territories. --Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 06:09, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

I think that before we can discuss whether this category should become a disambiguation one or not, let's first have an overview of the involved categories with short descriptions and perhaps a proposed category structure. --JopkeB (talk) 09:05, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

My current proposal is to define the category States as political entities that maintain a monopoly on the legitimate use of violence, and it includes both Sovereign states and Constituent states. I have proposed the following category scheme for states (the list is not necessarily exhaustive):

• States
  • Flags of states
    • Flags of constituent states
    • Flags of sovereign states
  • Maps of states
    • Maps of constituent states
    • Maps of sovereign states
  • States by type
    • Constituent states
      • Federated states
        • States of India
        • States of the United States
      • States of Myanmar
    • Federations
    • Kingdoms
    • Sovereign states
  • State governments
    • State government buildings
    • State roads

The Sovereign states category should also be categorized under Countries by status because countries generally include sovereign states (excluding the kingdoms of Denmark and the Netherlands). --Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 18:31, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

This is a good start.

 Agree

• States are political entities and include Sovereign states.
• Constituent states was moved (by you) to Federated states (I agree with this move); please adjust the scheme.

 Disagree

• Federated states‎ should be a subcategory of Federal countries, not of States themselves.

Proposals for descriptions of Commons categories (derived from EN-WP, unless otherwise stated), and a little bit hierarchical ordening in advance:

• Country = a region that is identified as a distinct national entity in a political geography (= current description in Commons)
• State = political entity, centralized political organization that regulates law and society within a territory.
  • Sovereign state = state that has the highest authority over a territory
    • Administrative division = geographical areas into which a particular independent sovereign state is divided (like subnational states/federated states), autonomous communities, provinces, oblasts and municipalities)
• Federation = [no description in EN-WP] umbrella category for all types of cooperating political entities (made up by me)
  • Federal country = political union of partially self-governing regions under a federal government; federation of states (like USA, Germany, India, UAE and many more)
    • Federated states (= Constituent states) = parts of a federal country; a political subdivision of a [sovereign, my addition] state; geographical areas into which a particular independent sovereign state is divided
  • Confederation = political union of sovereign states united for purposes of common action (like the Europen Union and the African Union)
• Dependent territory = territory that does not possess full political independence or sovereignty and remains politically outside the controlling state's integral area (like colonies)

 Question @Sbb1413 and Crouch, Swale: Do you agree with these descriptions for Commons? Are any other main categories involved (what did I forget)?

After we agree, we can discuss whether:

• States should be a disambigious page
• What a good category structure would be.

JopkeB (talk) 15:49, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Yes as I mentioned its a DAB on Wikipedia. Crouch, Swale (talk) 08:53, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

@Crouch, Swale: That was not the question yet. The question for now is: Do you agree with the descriptions in the proposal? If we all do, then we can discuss whether it should be a DAB or not and the category structure. Please, one step at a time. JopkeB (talk) 11:11, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Yes apart from the point that "State" is for "political entity" but should be a DAB. Crouch, Swale (talk) 11:13, 5 April 2024 (UTC)