Category:Video gaming in the Philippines

Deletion please PaulGorduiz106 (talk) 09:39, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Why? pandakekok9 10:28, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Because no one in the Philippines cares about Nintendo. also there's no pictures about the country's video game shops (DataBlitz, iTech, etc.) on Commons (Look at this). PaulGorduiz106 (talk) 21:27, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

I do, as well as another Filipino editor on WiKirby. :) But I wonder though if there are any photos of Filipino indie games that can be uploaded to Commons. pandakekok9 06:20, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello and good afternoon to both of you - from hereat blue sky Bulacan; I created this considering that all countries use this Video games developed in Category:Video games developed in the Philippines; I created Category:Video gaming in the Philippines since I followed the Wikipedia Articles; Noted sincerely .......Judgefloro (talk) 08:17, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Found one. Also find that one too. but can you visit any malls across the Philippines that has a video game shops (DataBlitz, iTech, etc. if you find any video game shops across the Philippines. here's that list if you read. PaulGorduiz106 (talk) 17:16, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

@PaulGorduiz106 @panda Here at SM Baliwag :Category:Nintendo Switch in the Philippines and Category:Video game shops in the Philippines ; my sibling was playing Dreamcast Playstation, now PSP since 1975 until today; in Virra Mall we were shortchanged; the Video shop 2nd floor demanded 1,5oo 3x a year, while we discovered a good shop in Baliuag, which downloads only 10 pesos per game and just 300 pesos for a battery; sincerelyJudgefloro (talk) 11:22, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

@PaulGorduiz106: It seems the category is not empty. Are we okay to close discussion? - Themightyquill (talk) 09:53, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

@Themightyquill Yes. close it. PaulGorduiz106 (talk) 17:58, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Closed without change -- Themightyquill (talk) 10:08, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Category:Animals eating Mangoes

Request deletion after contents were moved to "Animals eating mangoes" YuriNikolai (talk) 23:42, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

deleted as empty. -- Túrelio (talk) 08:22, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Nagtahan Boulevard

There is no such thing as "Nagtahan Boulevard". There were only three images here, but two have been moved to Category:Jesus Street, and one have been transferred to Category:Road signs in the Philippines. What is supposed to be "Nagtahan Boulevard" is actually the northern part of Quirino Avenue. There is Nagtahan Street though, but it is an unrelated street beside the Lacson Avenue - Mabini Bridge overpass that spans between Lacson and Quirino Avenues/Mabini (formerly Nagtahan) Bridge. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 04:14, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

deleted as empty. -- Túrelio (talk) 08:27, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:2014 NAACP Tennessee State Conference

delete, empty category SecretName101 (talk) 08:28, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

deleted as empty. -- Túrelio (talk) 07:35, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Indian Sportswoman of the Year Award

Moved the original category to a more specific title (BBC). Nothing links here, no use of this redirect. KCVelaga (talk · mail) 08:37, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

deleted as empty. -- Túrelio (talk) 07:36, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Online course, fall 2020, advenced, Senior Citizens Write Wikipedia

delete (typo, fixed) Vojtěch Veselý (talk) 16:54, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

deleted as empty. -- Túrelio (talk) 07:37, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Saif Ul Islam

What is the importance of this military chaplain that we made a cat for him, although he has only one image in Commons. I would say he looks like Tom Cruise; is this about a movie hero? E4024 (talk) 18:34, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

• EN:WP has a disam page for "Saiful Islam" but there I could not find the officer. --E4024 (talk) 18:41, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

I see two images in this category, and several more in Category:Abuhena Saifulislam - Themightyquill (talk) 11:01, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• RD'ed to older cat. Nothing else to discuss. --E4024 (talk) 01:23, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Closed. There was an older cat with more than one file and a complete name; redirected there. --E4024 (talk) 01:23, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Missouri Route 6

Uncategorized unnecessary cat. Let us delete it at birth. E4024 (talk) 18:48, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

• Now it's categorized. It has articles in 2 WPs (that I could not see due to lack of WD link, which is now operative) and therefore no need to delete. Closing. --E4024 (talk) 22:47, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Closed. I hurried a bit to open this discussion. --E4024 (talk) 22:47, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Names in Tajiks

Names in Tajiks? Is this OK? E4024 (talk) 23:38, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Is parent Category:Tajikish language okay? Isn't it redunant with Category:Tajik language? - Themightyquill (talk) 11:00, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Made the necessary corrections. Closing. --E4024 (talk) 17:58, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

•  Done Moved to Category:Names in Tajik, and the parent cat changed to Category:Tajik language. --E4024 (talk) 17:58, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Islamic mathematics schools

Sorry but this cat makes no sense. Look at the two subcats. An Iraqi mathematician from our times (hopefully Christian :) will make up an "Islamic mathematics school"? Sorry, that does not exist (at least here in Commons). Delete. E4024 (talk) 03:44, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Agreed. I would say the inclusion of a sub-category for ancient Egyptian mathematics is even more worrying. Delete this, and rename Category:Islamic mathematics to Category:Medieval Islamic mathematics to match its peers. -- Themightyquill (talk) 10:58, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

deleted as empty. -- Túrelio (talk) 16:53, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Tom Moore

The category should be disambiguated per Wikipedia but I'm unsure who this is, it looks like w:Tom Moore (politician) but I'm not sure. Crouch, Swale (talk) 09:29, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Tom Moore was a videographer for WWL-TV until 2017 . - Themightyquill (talk) 10:48, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Tom Moore (videographer) then? Crouch, Swale (talk) 11:06, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Moved content to Category:Tom Moore (videographer) and created disambig page. -- Themightyquill (talk) 10:10, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Category:Images from KIT, Voorstelling Object - sabels

Category formerly used by cultural heritage organisation: replaced by SDoC Ecritures (talk) 15:32, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done: is empty now & deleted. --rubin16 (talk) 06:58, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Images from KIT, Voorstelling Object - japonnen

Category formerly used by cultural heritage organisation: replaced by SDoC Ecritures (talk) 15:43, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done: is empty now & deleted. --rubin16 (talk) 06:58, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Images from KIT, Voorstelling Object - paraplu's

Category formerly used by cultural heritage organisation: replaced by SDoC Ecritures (talk) 15:45, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done: is empty now & deleted. --rubin16 (talk) 06:58, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Images from KIT, Voorstelling Object - handschoenen

Category formerly used by cultural heritage organisation: replaced by SDoC Ecritures (talk) 15:47, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done: is empty now, deleted. --rubin16 (talk) 06:57, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Images from KIT, Voorstelling Object - petten

Category formerly used by cultural heritage organisation: replaced by SDoC Ecritures (talk) 15:53, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done: is empty now & deleted. --rubin16 (talk) 06:58, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Images from KIT, Voorstelling/iconografie - Verpleegkundige

Category formerly used by cultural heritage organisation: replaced by SDoC Ecritures (talk) 17:23, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

deleted as empty. -- Túrelio (talk) 08:15, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Islamic clerics

There is no Islamic clergy. E4024 (talk) 18:13, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Delete or rename? - Themightyquill (talk) 07:45, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

• I tried to explain a problem, sorry, an "Islamic problem" several times: People who wish to give more visibility to their religion on the one hand, and people who like to show "Islamic people" (their "the other", favourite activity for some colleagues) with their long beards, black headscarves on the other hand, all the time create parallel, similar, unnecessary, overcat cats about Islam. Without finishing the discussion (although I am hopeful for the current decade :) Commons:Categories for discussion/2019/04/Category:Muslim religious workers I feel obliged to open another one. Those people (on both wings) do not even deign to come and defend their activity. Do they not speak English? How come they open "Islamic cats" (sic :) all the time, then? That (what I is a tries to explain above) is the problem. Maybe we should convert Commons into "Islamic Commons"... --E4024 (talk) 13:49, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Unclear proposal. Closing discussion. - Themightyquill (talk) 14:44, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Glyne Reach

It needs to be deleted because I spelt it wrongly. It should have been Glynde Reach. Bob1960evens (talk) 23:46, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Deleted. @Bob1960evens: Next time you make a typo, use {{badname|Glynde Reach}} on the mispelled category. -- Themightyquill (talk) 07:43, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. I tried Help:Delete category to find out what to do, but that did not point me to badname. Bob1960evens (talk) 08:45, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Zsámánd

This category equals Category:Reinersdorf (municipality Heiligenbrunn). It is simply named by the Hungarian name Zsámánd for the same village called Reinersdorf in German. --Hanzlan (talk) 10:25, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

•  Create redirect . I think this is a plausible alternate name, and redirection is the best way to avoid accidental recreation/redlinked usage. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 00:57, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Redirected to Category:Reinersdorf (municipality Heiligenbrunn). -- Themightyquill (talk) 10:16, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Category:Nigerian artists

Duplicate of Category:Artists from Nigeria? Why? E4024 (talk) 02:46, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Already redirected. -- Themightyquill (talk) 21:42, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Gentile Bellini and the East

Context? His self portrait in this cat, why? Delete it. E4024 (talk) 03:44, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

1. this is not the discussion but the cat.

2. I told you in the summaries following exhibition history, that this is cat for an exhibition where the paintings were exhibited, like we have thousand cats on commons so the Renaissance faces cat also for the Self-portrait. So even if you fail to know, you may not personal attack me and be aggressive, calm down.--Tanzmariechen (talk) 04:31, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

• "this is not the discussion but the cat" is beyond my level of intelligence. Without noticing that there was participation at the CfD, I reverted my edit (of opening a CfD). Sorry. Also sorry for my nervousness, but edit summaries did not tell much indeed. Closing this as unnecessary. E4024 (talk) 04:43, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

• Second time in a short period I opened a CfD in a hurry, and also closing it quickly not to take time of other people. I will think more before moving the next time. Closed as there is not much to discuss. E4024 (talk) 04:43, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:National Technology of Mexico

Seems to be a duplicate of Category:Tecnológico Nacional de México Mike Peel (talk) 06:22, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Delete. Create redirect from Category:National Technological Institute of Mexico to Category:Tecnológico Nacional de México. - Themightyquill (talk) 12:29, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Deleted. Created redirect from Category:National Technological Institute of Mexico to Category:Tecnológico Nacional de México. -- Themightyquill (talk) 08:51, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Category:Photographs by

improperly named category with overly-specific redirect Mindmatrix 22:08, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

 Delete According to the edit history, the category was created by mistake, so I think it can be deleted. ––Apalsola ^{t • c} 22:51, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

 Delete category was created by mistake and this was a left after move. --Zache (talk) 19:24, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

deleted as empty. -- Túrelio (talk) 07:22, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Provinces of Tajikistan

Is Category:Provinces of Tajikistan reduntant with Category:Regions of Tajikistan? -- Themightyquill (talk) 08:59, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Redirected to Category:Regions of Tajikistan. -- Themightyquill (talk) 10:15, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Category:Région Sughd

Is Category:Région Sughd redundant with Category:Sughd province -- Themightyquill (talk) 09:00, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Merged into Category:Sughd province. -- Themightyquill (talk) 10:13, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Category:Red Lizard

Move to Category:Lézard rouge, the official name of the train Themightyquill (talk) 10:07, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

I have no objection. Moumou82 (talk) 10:22, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

moved.--RZuo (talk) 17:26, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Towns and villages in Djerba

Move to Category:Populated places in Djerba to match category tree. Themightyquill (talk) 10:46, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

•  Support per nom. Crouch, Swale (talk) 11:45, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
•  Support --Stegop (talk) 00:18, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Moved to Category:Populated places in Djerba Themightyquill (talk) 08:35, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Fidget cubes

Unnecessary redirect Tetizeraz. Send me a ✉️ ! 14:06, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

deleted as empty. -- Túrelio (talk) 08:27, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Jal Jal Mare Patang

blank category. I was the creator of this category. Gazal world (talk) 19:04, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

deleted as empty. -- Túrelio (talk) 20:11, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Oil on copper paintings

Seems like Category:Oil on copper. Could be deleted or redirected. BriefEdits (talk) 00:05, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:School №2 in Semenivka (Poltava Oblast)

Empty category Renvoy (talk) 11:25, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

deleted as empty. -- Túrelio (talk) 14:33, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Natural monuments in Aach (near Trier)

Löschen! Irrtümlich angelegt. Palauenc05 (talk) 19:01, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done: yep. --JuTa 04:03, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:The Illustrated News of the World 1903

Not used Broichmore (talk) 17:42, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

deleted as empty. -- Túrelio (talk) 21:29, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:WLB NEBM-2017

not needed anymore. blank category. Bodhisattwa (talk) 15:16, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

deleted as empty. -- Túrelio (talk) 21:29, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:ZDF Magazin Royal

This category has a simple spelling mistake and has been moved to the correct name. Badgon (talk) 19:06, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

deleted as empty. -- Túrelio (talk) 07:44, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:The Seattle Times

Hellooworl 2001:4898:80E8:9:1DF:40B2:D7CE:B406 16:50, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

• Nonsense, clearly, but as the creator of the category it is probably poor form for me to close this. Would someone please do that? - Jmabel ! talk

 Done Closing. We saluted the world. --E4024 (talk) 19:02, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Hitorical images of Moena

Delete this category. Wrong name and unuseful Tangopaso (talk) 21:13, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Deleted by Billinghurst. -- Themightyquill (talk) 08:20, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Rene Renno

Please change the name of this category to "Category:René Renno" (with an acute accent over the second "e") as this is the correcting spelling of his name. Thanks in advance. 51.37.107.92 22:44, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done: Cat renamed. --Achim (talk) 09:12, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Cavalière (Le Lavandou)

Strict doublon de Category:Le Lavandou Cavaliere‎ ; vide. Fr.Latreille (talk) 21:05, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Elle est surtout vide parce que tu viens d'en retirer le contenu... le préciser aurait été honnête.

Quelle est la convention pour les lieu-dits et quartier Ville + Quartier ou Quartier (Ville) ? J'utilise toujours la seconde.

Arflhn (talk) 19:34, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

 Delete. Taivo (talk) 12:48, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Ingyuichon Vashum

mispelling of Ringyuichon Vashum Victuallers (talk) 10:59, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

deleted as empty. -- Túrelio (talk) 16:53, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Sønderjyske byer

Rename Category:Populated places in Sønderjylland Themightyquill (talk) 09:25, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

•  Support per Commons:Naming categories and standard format for settlement categories. Crouch, Swale (talk) 11:39, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Renamed Category:Populated places in Sønderjylland -- Themightyquill (talk) 14:55, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Category:Towns and villages in American Samoa

Move to Category:Populated places in American Samoa Themightyquill (talk) 09:55, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

•  Support per nom and split into "Towns" and "Villages" categories if needed. Crouch, Swale (talk) 11:41, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Moved to Category:Populated places in American Samoa. -- Themightyquill (talk) 15:02, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Category:Towns and villages in Maine

Based on the fact that villages and towns in Maine seem to have rather separate status, shouldn't we split this category? It is currently linked to en:Category:Villages in Maine. Themightyquill (talk) 10:33, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

•  Support per nom, since Category:Populated places in Maine already exists we don't need to rename, move it to either Category:Towns in Maine or Category:Villages in Maine and create the other. Crouch, Swale (talk) 11:45, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Deleted in favour of Category:Towns in Maine, Category:Villages in Maine and [[:Category:Plantations in Maine. - Themightyquill (talk) 12:51, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Category:Abandoned cities and villages in the Doupov Mountains

Move to Category:Formerly populated places in the Doupov Mountains as subcategory of Category:Formerly populated places in the Czech Republic. Themightyquill (talk) 10:46, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

•  Support I assume you meant as a sub category of Category:Populated places in the Doupov Mountains but that doesn't change things. Crouch, Swale (talk) 11:56, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

@Crouch, Swale: Yes that as as well, but also Category:Formerly populated places in the Czech Republic since we don't have Category:Abandoned cities and villages in the Czech Republic. - Themightyquill (talk) 19:42, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Moved to Category:Formerly populated places in the Doupov Mountains. -- Themightyquill (talk) 15:14, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Category:Cities and villages of the Way of Saint James in France

Move to Category:Populated places of the Way of Saint James in France or possibily Category:Populated places along the Way of Saint James in France. The same for Category:Cities and villages of the Way of Saint James in Spain. -- Themightyquill (talk) 11:51, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

•  Support per nom though I'm not sure if this category should exist at all since there isn't even an article on ENwiki and this category doesn't appear to exist on Frwiki. Crouch, Swale (talk) 15:08, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Moved to Category:Populated places along the Way of Saint James in France and Category:Populated places along the Way of Saint James in Spain. @Crouch, Swale: You may be right that these categories shouldn't exist at all. I'll leave a CFD suggesting deletion to you, if you'd like. -- Themightyquill (talk) 07:21, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Category:Cities and towns in Saskatchewan

According to en:List of cities in Saskatchewan, there's a very clear definition for cities in Saskatchewan. I see no reason to combine with towns, when the category tree is at Category:Cities in Canada. Themightyquill (talk) 12:16, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

•  Support per nom and split since both "cities" and "towns" categories exist on WP. Crouch, Swale (talk) 15:12, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Split into Category:Cities in Saskatchewan and Category:Towns in Saskatchewan. - Themightyquill (talk) 13:16, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Category:Guruteampr

Company with questionable notability, borderline spam Jianhui67 ^T★C 06:21, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done:  deleted. --Minorax^talk 00:32, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Aghjkaberd fortress near Aygedzor village

I think this is a duplicate of Category:Aghjkaberd (Tavush) and can be merged, but I'm not sure. Mike Peel (talk) 09:36, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Withdrawn, I was wrong, they are different forts. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 14:15, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Mardin Cityscape

Cityscape? Always with capital letter or only here? Why is it different from, say, "Category:Cityscapes of Antalya"? E4024 (talk) 18:58, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

• Sorry, it was Category:Cityscapes of Alanya... or was it Category:Cityscapes in Alanya? One can get crazy around these cats... --E4024 (talk) 19:04, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
• I moved it boldly to Category:Cityscapes in Mardin. CfD is already backlogged. Closing. --E4024 (talk) 19:29, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done --E4024 (talk) 19:29, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Cityscapes of Alanya

What is the difference of this cat from Category:Cityscapes in Alanya? E4024 (talk) 19:05, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

• I merged them under the latter. Closing. --E4024 (talk) 19:11, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

•  Done --E4024 (talk) 19:11, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Child Street station

Author requested deletion. All files within category are also tagged for author requested deletion. Nick Boppel (talk) 22:43, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Deleted per nomination. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 02:08, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Destroyed buildings by function

i suppose, that the conclusion reached in Commons:Categories for discussion/2013/03/Category:Demolished buildings should be applied to this entire cat tree? so all existing cats should in principle be moved to "destroyed xx"? RZuo (talk) 04:21, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I should think Category:Demolished hotels either should be at Category:Destroyed hotels or at Category:Hotels destroyed by demolition and so forth. - Themightyquill (talk) 08:37, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

• "Demolished" is far better. "Destroyed" might apply for something bombed during wartime, but a rename like this is ridiculous and should be reverted.

As always, Commons' obsession with "consistency" in naming is pointless. MediaWiki just doesn't care about this. It's of no use, and it's simply an excuse to impose these ridiculous renames. "destroyed by demolition" is a classic Wikineologism - there is no such phrasing, there's a perfectly good word, "demolished" for this. Andy Dingley (talk) 20:23, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, I should have closed discussion before I began to make the changes but this CFD has been open for months. You're welcome to create a new CFD on the base category if you don't like it. -- Themightyquill (talk) 07:23, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Category:Landscapes of Doña Imelda, Quezon City & Sampaloc-Santa Mesa, Manila villages (Pedestrian Footbridge, Manila MRT Line 2 - Aurora Boulevard - Magsaysay Boulevard - Gregorio Araneta Avenue Extension, Skyway Stage 3)

Reasons for discussion request - Manually creating discussion page as automatic process failed due to "loooong name". The exact category title is at the subheading. Empty category, very highly implausible and "nonsense" category: files have been moved to more relevant categories like Category:Magsaysay Boulevard and Category:Construction of Skyway Stage 3 - Gregorio Araneta Avenue segment. The creator (@Judgefloro: has been given messages before to be more specific but realistic in categorizations, and avoid too looooooooong categories (perhaps partly due to his uploading of highly-redundant and repetitious images). -JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 18:22, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

•  Info I purposely trimmed away the category name at the discussion title, as the filing of this category for discussion page cannot be done properly (automatic or manual) if the actual and full name of the category is used. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 18:34, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Aurora Boulevard - Magsaysay Boulevard Categories may be options of renaming;

I happened to discuss matters with my Geodetic Engineer and another Civil engineer even if my sibling is a Mechanical engineer from UST; I am in no position to submit a highly technical opposition or none, considering that these photos should rather be examined by the Mapping people like Wikimapia, DPWH Engineers and those in the Geodetic mapping;

As a specific example, though subject of another topic but related herein; the naming of Roads, bridges and Highways depend upon the name appearing at the Bidding; thus when I was studying at the Ateneo, I happened to pass Nagtahan Boulevard near De Ocampo Memorial Hospital and College; jeepney drivers do have as I vividly recall, karatula Nagtahan Boulevard; for us, editors, it would be better to re-categorized Category Former boulevards, heritage, though, instead of using speedy deletion; but since, I am not an expert on roads and bridges, and it is your forte, I would no longer ask for Undelition, for it is no big deal;

A final point, perhaps: in my extended photography of Bridges, I found the brigdge do have Bridge ID and the names of Bridges change depending on the DPWH final bidding notice which is required by law; so, like our previous long discussion on Taliptip Bridge in Bulacan, before I categorized it I asked the Mayor's office and folks including the Barangay Captain; and I cannot put a better name until the DPWH officially puts a name and Bridge ID thereat; I defer these matters to more learned Wikipedia engineers geodetic and civil submitted Judgefloro (talk) 07:00, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done deleted by Materialscientist -- Common Good (talk) 07:08, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Category:Main facade of the Iglesia Ni Cristo Church, 1914 - Museum (Punta, Santa Ana, Manila)

Unnecessary category. This essentially duplicates Category:Iglesia ni Cristo Museum, Punta, Santa Ana, Manila. All images previously here have been moved there. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 07:30, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Gandang Mabagyong Hapon sa Imo; sincerely Judgefloro (talk) 10:55, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done deleted by Materialscientist -- Common Good (talk) 07:07, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Category:Masscom mobile phones

Masscom mobile phones AnVuong1222004 (talk) 03:27, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Unclear what to do, proposer blocked. – BMacZero (🗩) 17:29, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Category:Category created by C1K98V

The only such cat among thousands of Commoners. Is this not personal promotion? I hope the cat opener asks its deletion themselves, in order to come to terms with being "one more Commoner" here. We should not try to shine more than others if we are only doing a voluntary work here. This is a call to the concerned user. E4024 (talk) 18:11, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

also tagged Category:Categories created by Sebastián Arena.--RZuo (talk) 12:47, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

• Well, now I see that there is also Category:Categories created by Sebastián Arena (it had a plural title, that is why I did not see it at the first search); I also ask that cat-opener to ask the deletion of his personal promotion cat. --E4024 (talk) 18:15, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
•  Keep We have Category:User categories that includes a lot of categories. As you say we are all volunteers here and if users like to keep track of what categories they have made or what files they have uploaded then I do not see a problem in that as long as it is a hidden category. --MGA73 (talk) 18:17, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

• Then make it a universal thing for all: Like "user contributions" and "user uploads". --E4024 (talk) 18:23, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

• @E4024: If you suggest that we delete all the 12,156 categories in Category:User categories then I think you should perhaps make a new suggestion with more accurate name "Suggesting to delete all user categories". Perhaps it should also be posted on COM:VP because it would involve hundreds or thousands of users. --MGA73 (talk) 18:30, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Other things exist, I know. What I do not understand is why are we not capable of sticking to the question which is -supposedly- being discussed. That includes only two cats. --E4024 (talk) 18:33, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

@E4024: When I wrote about the other user categories you replied "Then make it a universal thing". I was not sure if you by that meant that you thought we should make this discussion a universial one about user categories. Thats why I said that in that case it should be more clear. --MGA73 (talk) 18:41, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

•  Keep:- I'm not a Business Tycoon or Social Media Influencer that I will be notable enough. As you said above, we all are volunteer, and so I'm. We all know and I understand First Impression is the the last impression. The policy states assume good faith, civility and maturity. But I haven't seen such from you E4024. I don't understand your nature, why are you ill-treating me. Whenever I post a message or try to have a conversation with you, You shut the door without proceeding ahead. I don't get it, we all are human being we may make mistakes. I didn't have a good start 9 month back, when I was newbie, unaware of how to do thing here correctly. But that doesn't mean I will always do wrong. If you respect/value your work and time, do same with others too. I like to have a count/record of my works that I'm doing here as an volunteer. I know for that we have a watchlist too, but I'm not at all good managing the watchlist sorry. If the community won't allow me to have one then I would like to request please start the delete process with my category and further end with deleting the whole Category:User categories. And I would request open heartly to all Admins volunteer to keep all pending work aside and focus on category that's more important as per E4024. Sorry I don't want to hurt anyone sentiment, and I apologize if I was rude. Thank you --C1K98V ^{(💬 ✒️ 📂)} 06:16, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

 Delete such cats are not defining characteristics of their contents.--RZuo (talk) 17:12, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

@RZuo: , could you please explain your above comments. Thanks --C1K98V ^{(💬 ✒️ 📂)} 13:29, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

 Keep - user categories are an accepted part of Commons - MPF (talk) 22:58, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

 Keep - as MPF states, user cats are accepted on Commons. As the categories under discussion are hidden for visitors from outside the Commons community I see no harm. It can motivate people to keep track of their work, in a list on their User Page, in a category. And people keeping motivated is very important for our community. I do see personal promotion in this case either. Elly (talk) 17:48, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: No consensus for deletion. --Nick (talk) 21:01, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Category:Cheng Hui-ling

Category:Chen Hui-ling Boat toad 舟集 (talk) 09:54, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done: Deleted. --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 15:31, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Category:Julian Castro in February 2015

empty category, should be deleted SecretName101 (talk) 22:42, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done: Deleted. --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 15:30, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Category:Noely Travels

out of scope MiguelAlanCS (talk) 16:50, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done: Deleted. --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 15:31, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Category:Bayazid Bastami

All three subcats use "Bostam(i)" and not "Bastam(i)", although the place is called Bastam. Either there is a mistake or a tricky detail about the local language. I will ping some Iranian experts. E4024 (talk) 19:37, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Neither is wrong. See BESṬĀM ["BESṬĀM, or Basṭām (sometimes written Bustam or Bostam)"], BESṬĀMĪ, BĀYAZĪD, Bisṭāmī, Bāyazīd, Bāyazīd al-Besṭāmī, بسطام and بایزید بسطامی. That being said, I think all categories should be consistent. O or U is the worst choice. I (and probably most Persian speakers) prefer A. E or I is more preferable by English and Arabic speakers. 4nn1l2 (talk) 20:02, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Consistency is important. As he is Persian let us move all to "Bastami". Any objections? Selling to the customer on the phone one, selling to the customer on the phone two... No, let us wait for one day in case there are any objections. --E4024 (talk) 00:26, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

As a Persian speaker, I personally prefer Bastami, too. Ahmad^talk 05:25, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

As far as I know, most English-language scholarly sources use "Bastami", however, if "Bostami" is more common in Bangladesh then it's better to keep it for mosque and shrine in that country. P.S. Sorry guys, I was redirecting two cats before I saw discussion. If different decision is agreed here, I'll fix all again. --Orijentolog (talk) 08:23, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

@E4024: I searched around hoping to find something official from Bangladesh. Results are this: most of official pages and scholarly articles use "Bayazid Bostami", although "Bayezid Bostami" is also widespread. Rarely, even "Bastami" is found, as well as "Baizid". We all agree that main category for this person should stay as Bayazid Bastami since he was Persian and he never actually went to Bangladesh (see biography, 4nn1l2 provided link of a different person), but I'm not inclined to rename two Bangladeshi places because it's obvious that Bostami is more used there. There are countless examples of institutions in Iran, Turkey, Afghanistan and other countries named after the same persons, and there are minor differences in English translations of their official names.

One small curiosity: imagine that person is born in Central European country, has a surname of Persian root, obtained through Ottoman Turkish. He travels to Turkey and Iran a lot, even lives there for years. When he requests official documents, should he write his surname as (1) native one, (2) Turkish version, or (3) a Persian original? I wonder what Turkish and Persian experts E4024, 4nn1l2 and Ahmad would say about it. This isn't some weird and hypothetical situation, it's a reality. Mine own. :) Since I keep it as native and inconsistent, you may call my opinion about Bangladeshi places as biased. :) --Orijentolog (talk) 12:02, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

I just saw a weird situation (IMO) and opened it to discussion. AFAICS there is nothing Turkish here. So Persian, Bangladeshi and other experts may further discuss it. I hope it takes less time than other discussions I opened here (an average of 3-4 years) to come to a conclusion. Good luck. --E4024 (talk) 12:43, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

•  Keep the status quo. I didn't know that the shrines and mosques subject to this discussion were in Bangladesh (I assumed they are in Iran without seeing them). I agree with Bangladeshi spelling. Thanks Orijentolog for being so meticulous. 4nn1l2 (talk) 13:01, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Discussion finished several months ago, therefore I'm closing it. Result is  Keep. --Orijentolog (talk) 06:23, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

Category:Ex libris by Adriaan Roland Holst

Created by mistake, Richard Roland Holst was meant. Tekstman (talk) 12:17, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done: deleted. --Jianhui67 ^T★C 09:07, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

Category:Coins of North Korea

In COM:CUR, there is no information about North Korea. Is it okay to upload North Korean currency to Wikimedia Commons? Ox1997cow (talk) 04:28, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

not category-for-discussion. Proper info at the hatnote of Category:Coins of North Korea Estopedist1 (talk) 16:58, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Category:Banknotes of North Korea

In COM:CUR, there is no information about North Korea. Is it okay to upload North Korean currency to Wikimedia Commons? Ox1997cow (talk) 04:28, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

@Ox1997cow: You'll get much better responses at Commons:Village pump/Copyright. - Themightyquill (talk) 16:33, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

not category-for-discussion. Proper info at the hatnote of Category:Banknotes of North Korea Estopedist1 (talk) 16:59, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Category:Listings magazine

Should this be plural? E4024 (talk) 00:57, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

I think so. Unless "Listings" is the name of a magazine, which doesn't appear to be the case here. --Auntof6 (talk) 02:35, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

As it is under Category:Magazines by subject, should be so. Please move it. --E4024 (talk) 02:39, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

I support the move per description at en:Listings magazine. - Themightyquill (talk) 08:21, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

 Support for the plural form--Estopedist1 (talk) 17:16, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Moved to Category:Listings magazines Themightyquill (talk) 16:23, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

Category:Mona Abou Hamze

empty category أمين (talk) 09:22, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

•  Keep I am against the deletion of empty cats of notable people. We can always have files to add there, and even as empty they have a function of linking WP, WD and Commons. E4024 (talk) 15:30, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
• Deleted - Empty is empty Gbawden (talk) 10:04, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

Category:The cradle of mankind; life in eastern Kurdistan (1922)

Princiapl author of Book - Wigram, W. A. (William Ainger), 1872-1953 , Not PD-UK. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 12:11, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

@ShakespeareFan00: I see you have nominated the files for deletion. If they are deleted, the category can be deleted as empty, but the category is not breaking any copyright rules - just holding things together. - Themightyquill (talk) 12:25, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

• Keep It looks like everything but the PDF of the book are going to be kept. So the category should be also. --Adamant1 (talk) 01:21, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Not discussion about the category (CFD), but discussion about files (DR). Discussion takes places at Category talk:The cradle of mankind; life in eastern Kurdistan (1922), or at concrete, problematic files Estopedist1 (talk) 19:57, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

Category:Slave trade

Could be merged and redirected into [Category:Slavery]. Have just cleared that one up so it has plenty of subcategories for everything. At the moment there's a lot of overlap. JRennocks (talk) 16:24, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

 Keep This is the most strangest suggestion I have ever seen > must be a joke. This debate should be closed, because no plausible reason is given. --Mateus2019 (talk) 16:37, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

 Support Maybe not exactly the same thing but the less clutter of cats the better. --E4024 (talk) 01:17, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

I see this as a valuable separation. The initial acquisition, the transportation and the sale of slaves is a distinct part of slavery worthy of grouping together. Wikipedia has a whole category about it at en:Category:Slave trade so it seem there should be more than enough content to fill it. But I'm not sure I understand the rationale for the proposal. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:54, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

 Keep Trade is not the same as other aspects of slavery like labor, abolitionism, treatment and housing. --Hannolans (talk) 22:46, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

The result was not merge/not redirect Estopedist1 (talk) 21:43, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Category:History of Islam in Pakistan

Probably inspired by the "Category:History of Islam in Pakistan" at EN:WP, which has a subcat called "Category:Islam in Pakistan". When you take examples from a badly constructed site you can only reach at bad results. This (what they did at Jimbo's favourite WP) is called putting the cart before the horse. Let us freeze this cat until we can really do something about it; indeed it should be about the "Subcontinent" and not "Pakistan". The Turkish moghuls took Islam to the Subcontinent, not to Pakistan or Bangladesh. E4024 (talk) 13:37, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done: per discussion.  — billinghurst sDrewth 11:42, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Category:Tree of the Year (Estonia)

This category is off the mark. It currently includes individual trees that were nominated for European Tree of the Year title. These nominees however didn't hold national Tree of the Year title in Estonia. Category currently links to et:aasta puu that is a title for tree species, not individual trees. This category should be deleted, unless it was perhaps renamed into something like "European Tree of the Year nominees". 2001:7D0:81F7:B580:C996:AFED:E0AF:2260 12:24, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Good catch, mate! Being an Estonia expert, the correction of the situation was easy. This category to be deleted--Estopedist1 (talk) 18:18, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

I ask for a new discussion before deleting. I had already given my answer, now just delete without discussing it is not fair. An answer from your side is still pending--Cookroach (talk) 00:20, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

about your changes Estopedist1 I have created a new discussion page for the project (see here), please put all criticism and suggestions there, thank you--Cookroach (talk) 10:09, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

@Cookroach: what do you want to discuss? Estonian Wikipedia et:Aasta puu and et:Euroopa aasta puu are different awards/distinctions. Please use Google translate to understand Estopedist1 (talk) 10:38, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

@Estopedist1, thanks for your answer. I have already understood that these are different topics. The problem is only the classification of the categories. In Estonia it seems to be similar to Germany, that a certain tree species is chosen as tree of the year - but this has only indirectly to do with the competition. The actual competition is a European competition in which Estonia, just like Germany, has only partially participated with certain trees. These categories here and the subcategories do not describe the trees of the year as a tree species, but the participants of the competition. Since Estonia participated in 2015, 2016 and 2017 with the respective nominees, the classification here is correct. I don't see any collision with the created data/images of the tree species pages. Please explain why you see it differently. Please do not continue the discussion here, but on this page under the relevant section, thank you--Cookroach (talk) 11:08, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

@Cookroach: I am unable to understand your intentions. However, it is certain that the nominated category with three subcategories are misleading and wrong. If no other users are interested in this specific topic, I will withdrawn my suggestions, and this CFD can be closed. But future discussions are encouraged. Just in case pinging user:Taivo and user:Kruusamägi Estopedist1 (talk) 12:52, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

There are bunch of categories under this. If they list the respective nominations from those countries to the European Tree of the Year title, then everything is fine. Where there is an isse is what was mention in the original comment: "Category currently links to et:aasta puu that is a title for tree species, not individual trees". That is what should be fixed. Wrong interwiki linking. Kruusamägi (talk) 13:05, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

@Kruusamägi Hello and thanks, If only the link on the data object is the problem, why is it not changed, sometimes I really don't understand some users. If Estopedist1 can't understand it and don't want to actively discuss it or become active themselves. I will create a new data object for each, the existing one for the tree type and a new one for the competition. Give me 1-2 days to implement the problem, as it does not only concern Estonia. I hope this will put an end to this discussion. I would still be pleased if someone from the people mentioned here comments on whether this is okay.--Cookroach (talk) 13:59, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

The main issue, as outlined at the top, remains unresolved. It is misleading to categorize Tamme-Lauri Oak and Rusalka oak as "Tree of the Year" because they were never selected as trees of the year, not in Estonian and not in European Tree of the Year contest.

It appears that "Tree of the Year (<country>)" categories are modelled after en:Tree of the Year (United Kingdom). In case of Britain the national tree of the year truely is selected (and also nominated as a candidate for Europe-wide contest). I don't know if this model applies to any other country than Britain, but it definitely doesn't apply to Estonia.

The category necessarily doesn't have to be deleted. Instead, as suggested above, it could be renamed into something more accurate such as "European Tree of the Year nominees from Estonia".

Category:Tree of the Year by country also needs a more suiting title, as far as it's a subcategory of "European Tree of the Year". It could be "European Tree of the Year nominees by country" then. 2001:7D0:81DA:F780:E0A7:1EA1:BB46:CFB0 16:16, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

The user with the address 2001:7D0:81DA:F780:E0A7:1EA1:BB46:CFB0 is really overdoing it a bit now, I had already agreed to the compromise, there is no need for further discussion on this. Especially not if it is done under an unregistered user account. To take an opinion seriously, the user should identify himself, otherwise it could also be treated as a shitstorm. In the interest of the cause, I ask that only registered users be able to accept changes and comments.--Cookroach (talk) 17:29, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

closing this discussion

I now feel subjected to a significant shitstorm by user 2001:7D0:81DA:F780:E0A7:1EA1:BB46:CFB0, I cannot respond to any post, whether amendment or discussion, if this is done by an unregistered user. I hereby inform the users (user:Taivo, user:Kruusamägi, User:Estopedist1) involved in the previous discussion that I will not make any further changes to the files and that Estonia will be excluded from the project for the time being. This should put things to rest for the time being. Maybe this is what the anonymous user in question wanted to achieve. I don't want to waste my time arguing with anyone about this. I will forward further attacks of this kind to the admin.--Cookroach (talk) 17:49, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

 Done: see the last post --Cookroach (talk) 18:06, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

I already fixed the Wikidata item. The category in Commons could be renamed or not: I don't really care enought, to look further into it. If someone want to deal with it then please go ahead. For me the discusson had ended. Kruusamägi (talk) 20:23, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

thank you Kruusamägi, I have also adjusted the ambiguous data object for Germany today (see Wikidata item). Obviously Estopedist1 wants to continue to disturb, but this is too much fuss for me, let him argue with himself. It's a pity one could have tried it objectively for once--Cookroach (talk) 21:28, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Category:Persian miniatures

This should be renamed to "Miniatures from Iran" and categorized accordingly. (BTW the Arab and Turkish -nowadays called Azeri- artists are/were from Iran but not "Persian", AFAIK.) E4024 (talk) 16:40, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

@E4024: I don't think so, the "Persian miniature" is well-established cultural term (not ethnic nor linguistical) in the West, similar to the "Persian carpet." There are also "Ottoman miniatures" and "Mughal miniatures", corresponding to three Gunpowder empires in a historical political sense. Currently there is no Category:Miniatures by country, but it can be open for separate categories (current borders), like for carpets. Renaming all three to "from Iran/Turkey/India" is a bad idea because some miniatures will end up in "from Syria/Afghanistan/Pakistan" despite literature groups them into first three (cultural) terms. If (let's say) some Armenian was making miniatures in Damascus 300 years ago, it's still Ottoman. --Orijentolog (talk) 19:21, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, your high intellectual level now made me think about Gunboat diplomacy... I never said anything about "from Turkey" (although we keep so many Ottoman and Iranian miniatures in our libraries, museums and archives). I only opposed (and always oppose) Persian hegemony on anything from culture to contemporary names. Probably you have not met any ... (I cannot find the English word for that now) people, especially famous ones, who try to show themselves more than what they are by saying "they are from Persia". No, they are from Iran, and the miniatures also. IMHO, of course. --E4024 (talk) 19:30, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

@E4024: I'm not saying that I'm 100% against your idea, perhaps 50-50%. Personally I also don't like "Persian X" categories, not because of some kind of hegemony, but because it's vague. The same is with Islamic art and architecture, used for both religious and secular buildings built during 14 centuries, from Andalusia to India. It is not possible to completely remove the term because it is too well-established, but utterly vague. Regarding the Persian carpets, I'm 100% sure it must exist, since it's a style (not political or ethnic designation) and too much common term in the West (like "Turkish bath" or "Arabic numerals"). About miniatures I'm not an expert and therefore not sure. Perhaps Hanooz can help. In any case, it would be helpful to open categories like miniatures by country, city, dynastic period and so on. Still, it's parallel categorization and does not answer our question here, too keep "Persian miniatures," redirect it to "Miniatures from Iran" or make a disambiguation page (to Safavid, Qajar, Zand, etc). --Orijentolog (talk) 10:17, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

• I'm neither in favor of the idea nor oppose it. As an alternative option, the category could contain miniatures with the Persian text like . Hanooz 15:42, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Good. In that case it would be a subcat of the name I asked for. E4024 (talk) 17:10, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

    enwiki article is under en:Persian miniature. So I guess that keep Estopedist1 (talk) 20:53, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Well-established cultural term, like carpets and gardens, it will be recategorized on the similar way. --Orijentolog (talk) 15:46, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Category:Kastamonu edge of town

See also: Commons:Categories for discussion/2021/02/Category:Cityscapes by country.

Without looking at who made the cat, I can imagine. A user that always complains about my criticism of their categorization. Right? They have never been warned for complaining about other users at CfD, I think that is a privilege for me only. If this cat name seems OK to you, I have no arguments. I will still use the platform to request other people to look around other cats concerning the country or even other countries before inventing new cats (just as I also have to do). We have cats for "by country". For example "Category:Cityscapes in... x country". If we do not have "X city edge of town" cats for other countries, that probably means this may be a bad cat name. E4024 (talk) 00:42, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

My, edgy. I wondered what the Wikipedia (En.) would say about cityscapes, and smiled when I saw the first illustration showed the former City Hall, now royal palace, on the central square in my hometown. It’s on a square that’s seen as the heart of the country. Nothing could be further from what I meant with edge: the part of a town where it gradually merges with the surrounding country. Think of “Darkness On The Edge Of Town” ((Springsteen). Then I checked where you put my category, it’s in Cityscapes in Turkey, where I found a very small number of categories of a very few cities. It seems not to be a roaring success. One other category was “Water reflections of cityscapes in Turkey””. That showed a mixed bag of pictures, none of which I’d consider typical reflections: Duden Falls, a marine ship in the Bosporus, a few buildings that are at a waterside. If that is the company I’d keep using the category, I’d rather decline. Dosseman (talk) 10:22, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Keep your sarcasm to yourself. If you have a problem with Category:Cityscapes by country open a discussion about that case. If Category:Cityscapes in Turkey is a "roaring success" that is due to the fact that some people who have uploaded many pictures of Turkey do not deign to add their pictures to the existing cats of the country. Perhaps they do not agree that Turkey cats -or their files- should be part of "by country" cats. The solution, in your case, could be to take pictures of other countries (maybe you already did so and uploaded them, I have no idea; I mostly follow Turkey pages) also and make a "by country" categorization: "Dosseman by country". This way files would be easier to find, as we cannot expect people to try to guess which words you chose in every occasion to name the cats. Look, if we want to make sarcasm here, it is more than enough with the opening words of this CfD. Any admin with the buttons can check my edits and see that I opened this discussion without looking at the history of this cat. This case is not only about you, there are, better "were" several people following the same course of action with you. One of them made a series of mistakes about cats of Turkey and in the end left the place. Later I met them in TR:WP where they apologized me for all the harm done in Commons. Another user, specialised on "Arabic cats", and whose many cats I brought here said "they made Oriental categorization", which I took as "please accept me as I am, do not bother me". I may give in to not bothering that colleague, but Turkey is my country. I do not have another one. I almost lost my eyes trying to contribute to Turkey issues in Commons and WPs. Therefore I will not give in before anyone on this area. If you have some sympathy towards my country give some of your time to examine our "by country" cats, find those ones where we do not have Turkey and use your files to make a "country cat" for Turkey. If you see a "roaring success" in some "by city cats of Turkey", such as the one you mentioned above, add your files to new cats you will open to make that roaring success greater, instead of inventing -as you did in the past- things such as "towns within cities", like, say "Category:Kastamonu town". That attitude may also be taken by others, such as myself, as if you have no respect to the work of other volunteers in Commons. "I take my pics and organize them to my own liking. The existing scheme beats me". No Sir. E4024 (talk) 11:14, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

@4nn1l2, hi! Could you please evaluate this discussion? It is open for a year. Kadı Message 19:34, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Category:X edge of town is not a standard naming on Common. There is only one category named like this and that is this very category about Kastamonu (quarry:query/67389). I moved all the files to the parent category, i.e., Category:Cityscapes in Kastamonu. 4nn1l2 (talk) 04:48, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

Category:Women wearing dotted bikinis and high-heeled shoes while smiling and standing and related sibling categories

See also: Commons:Categories for discussion/2021/02/Category:Women wearing dotted bikinis while smiling and standing.

Also included are all other subcategories of Category:Women_wearing_bikinis_and_high-heeled_shoes_while_smiling_and_standing

Proposing deletion. Uselessly over-specific categories containing images that are also of questionable utility. ƒirefly ( t · c ) 11:55, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

•  Delete the cat and some of its contents, only keep the best files. E4024 (talk) 12:25, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
•  Delete all and upmerge files to parent categories. Whether or not the files are within scope should be dealt with elsewhere at COM:DR. ミラP@Miraclepine 04:02, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
•  Delete too specific categorization--Estopedist1 (talk) 18:31, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

 Done: . —‍Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 20:58, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Category:Women wearing dotted bikinis while smiling and standing

See also: Commons:Categories for discussion/2021/02/Category:Women wearing dotted bikinis and high-heeled shoes while smiling and standing.

Proposing deletion. Uselessly over-specific category containing images that are also of questionable utility. ƒirefly ( t · c ) 11:59, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

I agree, and also regarding the subcategory. All files should be added to Category:Dotted bikinis. Ove Raul (talk) 16:23, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

 Done: . —‍Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 20:57, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Category:Chinese Communist Party

Some categories and files use “CCP” (Chinese Communist Party), instead of Communist Party of China. Should a redirect be created? I have not done one. Ooligan (talk) 04:28, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

@Ooligan: File names should not be changed. None of the current subcategories use CCP. Which ones are you talking about? - Themightyquill (talk) 16:39, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

@Themightyquill: Some older documents, books and files used Chinese Communist Party or simply CCP, which is now Communist Party of China in current use (and a Commons category). More photos and documents from the 1950s and 1960s will become available from various archives and libraries that will use this old nomenclature. Can files, books or documents that use Chinese Communist Party or CCP be placed into a sub-category of the Communist Party of China? For researchers and students these names indicate files from an earlier era of post-communist Chinese history. --Ooligan (talk) 20:28, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, I misunderstood. Some categories use "Chinese Communist Party" or "China Communist Party" instead of "Communist Party of China." Yes, I think a redirect makes sense, since "Chinese Communist Party" was never the official name of the party. - Themightyquill (talk) 20:50, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

enwiki article is under en:Chinese Communist Party. We should follow enwiki Estopedist1 (talk) 20:49, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

redirected to Category:Communist Party of China. cat titles normally follow official english names.--RZuo (talk) 12:33, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

Category:Paintings by surface

See also: Commons:Categories for discussion/2019/01/Category:Inscriptions by support.

Pardon my ignorance, but isn't this the exact same meaning as Category:Paintings by substrate? I'm not a painter but the dictionary definition and online discourse would suggest so. BriefEdits (talk) 00:39, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

@BriefEdits: That could be. Category:Paintings by substrate was created later and Category:Paintings by surface follows the model of Category:Categories by surface. @Wmpearl: Did you mean to differentiate between the two, or did you just not see Category:Paintings by surface when you created Category:Paintings by substrate? - Themightyquill (talk) 13:22, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

@Themightyquill: I think like you, both are obviously the same. I think the only reason why nothing happens here since more than one year was the word substrate which we are maybe not very colloquial. But if we look at substrate we found other usages of the word but still with the broad meaning of ‘surface’, e.g.:

• Substrate (biology), the natural environment in which an organism lives, or the surface or medium on which an organism grows or is attached
• Substrate (locomotion), the surface over which an organism locomotes
• ...

So I think we can merge it, what I ve just done. Hope you are fine with that!? And @BriefEdits and Wmpearl: you too!? Regards, --W like wiki ^{good to know} 21:42, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

Sure, seems fine to me. -- BriefEdits (talk) 18:04, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

 Done categories were Merged after consens. Added description "This category is for paintings by surface/substrate" to the category. --W like wiki ^{good to know} 16:11, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Category:Names by language

See also: Commons:Categories for discussion/2020/10/Category:Surnames by country.

About the (national) subcats: I made "Category:Turkish-language names" and I believe this formula is better and more in line with similar language cats. We should make all subcats uniform, IMHO. E4024 (talk) 23:43, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

For the most part, yes. Your formula matches the category tree better, as well as the sub-categories "X-language masculine given names" in almost all of these. You should tag the affected categories as well before any moving gets done. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:53, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• While a discussion was open, some people made new arrangements. In this case (discussion and compromise not preferred) we have nothing else to move the remaining subcats to titles harmonized with the majority. It is a pity that CfD is evaded, probably because of lengthy, futile discussions in many cases. --E4024 (talk) 18:03, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

@E4024: It's possible the changes were made without seeing the discussion, because you didn't tag the relevant categories. - Themightyquill (talk) 19:09, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

The consensus is to use the "X-language name" formula. --Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 13:37, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

Category:Technical institutes

Is Category:Technical institutes redundant with Category:Technical universities and colleges? This is just for institutions with the word "institute" in their name? -- Themightyquill (talk) 12:33, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

• Keep Institutes can be separate entities from colleges and universities. Which are focused on higher education. Whereas, an institute can focus on other things. So they aren't synonymous. The category should be clarified to reflect it though so places that revolve around higher education aren't wrongly put in the category. --Adamant1 (talk) 02:15, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Institutes can be for things other than education, but sometimes they are purely for education. Category:Institute of Technical Education is a clear example. If we want something for technical research institutes, let's create Category:Technical research institutes and make it a subcategory of Category:Research institutes (or Category:Technical research organizations in Category:Research organizations, if we go that way.) -- Themightyquill (talk) 14:48, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

I've tagged Category:Technical colleges and Category:Technical universities which should be merged into Category:Technical universities and colleges. In general, we don't make a distinction between colleges and universities, and I don't see any need to do so in this case. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:14, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

@Themightyquill: I think there are good reasons to differentiate between colleges and universities, as there are cases where multiple colleges constitute a university (see Colleges by university). However, both should be covered under a single umbrella category. Therefore, Technical colleges and Technical universities should exist separately and they should be subcats of Technical institutes. Technical institutes should be used for technical institutes that are neither called colleges nor universities. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 06:42, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

i suggest we keep three:

1. "Technical universities and colleges" for any organisation related to post-secondary education.
2. "Technical schools" for any org related to secondary education. (there's no technical primary school right?)
3. "Technical research organizations" for any org that do technical research but without any educational function (like some technical research labs affiliated with companies?).

"Technical institutes" can redirect to Technical universities and colleges or Technology organizations. RZuo (talk) 08:05, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

I agree the proposal. As I said before, Technical colleges and Technical universities should have separate main categories. However, I have changed my proposal a bit and they should be subcats of Technical universities and colleges. You can merge the two into "universities and colleges" for countries where the distinction between universities and colleges is ceremonial. --Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 13:42, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

No-consensus keep, as per the broader discussion at Commons:Categories for discussion/2021/03/Category:Institutes. --Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 07:38, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

Category:Sunken cities

"Cities" does not seem to reflect the content of this category, though the classification as a city is mostly subjective (relative), most included are either towns or even smaller settlements. Not sure whether moving this category, for instance to "Sunken settlements" or creating a new one is the best course of action. Savh^ñ 16:37, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Fair enough. It was probably just produced to mirror en:Category:Sunken cities, but wikipedia also has en:Category:Submerged places, en:Category:Submerged settlements in Ukraine‎. The parent category Category:Submerged remains also sounds funny to me... like a dead body at the bottom of a lake. Maybe Category:Submerged places would be best, as a sub-category of Category:Abandoned places? And while it doesn't exactly roll off the tongue, Category:Sunken populated places (or Category:Submerged populated places?) would match the category tree at Category:Formerly populated places. We do have Category:Sunken populated places in Ukraine already. - Themightyquill (talk) 21:31, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

i think submerged is a better word than sunken. many settlements have been flooded and therefore submerged but not sunken, due to construction of dams, for example.--RZuo (talk) 00:47, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

This wikidata item is using, right know, as English label: "flooded village". Of course, this label may change. For the sake of mentioning additional options... I have no opinion at all, since English native speakers would be more prepared to select the best word (city, town, place, populated place, village,...). Strakhov (talk) 18:37, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Enwiki still has en:Sunken cities with hatnote "Category for underwater cities and other populated places". I guess we should follow enwiki Estopedist1 (talk) 21:20, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Submerged populated places has been created per consensus, and Submerged cities (moved from Sunken cities) has been retained as its subcat. --Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 10:41, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Category:Foreign countries' pavilions

	Category:Foreign countries' pavilions	Move to/Rename as	Category:Exposition pavilions by country of origin by exposition
	Category:Pavilions of Expo 1967 (countries)	Move to/Rename as	Category:Pavilions of Expo 1967 by country of origin
	better fits standard metacat structure, fits into existing Category:Exposition pavilions by country of origin. As covered in Commons:Categories for discussion/2019/05/Category:Foreign countries, 'foreign' is not usually an appropriate adjective (all countries are foreign to all other countries). This proposal covers all subs of Category:Foreign countries' pavilions.
	Josh (talk) 07:54, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

@Joshbaumgartner: I think you should close this discussion with no objections to rename these categories. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 07:57, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

This category discussion has been closed.
Consensus	Resolved without objection
Actions	Rename category per above
Participants	Sbb1413 (talk · contribs)
Closed by	Josh (talk) 15:41, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Category:Catherine Alice Freehill

Should be deleted. No content other than a Wikidata infobox and an ill-advised subfolder of a relative. Commons is not a genealogy database where every person who ever lived gets their own profile page under the guise of "category" with no media whatsoever. --Animalparty (talk) 01:00, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

• Comment I added her portrait to the category. Although, I'm going to leave it up to other people to decide if a category with one file should be kept or not. --Adamant1 (talk) 02:06, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

  in Wikidata it is kept because "structural need". I guess that we haven't strong arguments to delete this one-member category in Commons as well Estopedist1 (talk) 20:27, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

  It looks like there's more stuff in the category now. I'm not sure if what was added should be there, but at least it points to the fact that the category probably shouldn't be deleted at this point. Even if it was just her picture I'd say it's probably fine to say we keep the category since it has a Wikidata item and whatnot. Sometimes it's good to leave things as is when that's the case. Even if there's a small amount of files in the category at present. --Adamant1 (talk) 03:11, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

• Looks like he created the cat but forget to add the cat to the image. --RAN (talk) 04:16, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: Not empty, useful content. --Yann (talk) 09:44, 2 September 2024 (UTC)