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Archive October 2014
Category:Winzerverein in Deutschland
Please delete, as Category:Winemaking cooperatives in Germany already exists Roland.h.bueb (talk) 17:05, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
Requested speedydeletion. FDMS 4 19:39, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
Category:Fleet Anti-Terrorism Security Team Pacific"
Delete because of typo Avron (talk) 19:21, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
Requested speedydeletion. FDMS 4 22:14, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
Category:Images
ZamoraNatalie ZamoraNatalie (talk) 01:20, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
Nonsense nomination. FDMS 4 01:27, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
Category:Queen Anne Anne Boulevard
Misspelled version of Category:Queen Anne Boulevard, Seattle. SounderBruce 23:50, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
- So what here needs discussion? Sounds like an uncontroversial fix to take to the Delinker. - Jmabel ! talk 05:14, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
Moved to Category:Queen Anne Boulevard, Seattle as per nom. --rimshottalk 19:22, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
Category:List of diamonds
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_diamonds Trishtha (talk) 12:23, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
Deleted as out of scope. Category:Named diamonds contains something like a list of diamonds. --rimshottalk 19:29, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
Category:Bear McCready
Misspelling, now to find at Category:Bear McCreary CennoxX (talk) 21:19, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
Moved to Category:Bear McCreary. --rimshottalk 19:33, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
Category:Yoni S.Hamenachem
Empty. Not needed eventually. Ldorfman (talk) 13:15, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
Deleted, still empty. --rimshottalk 19:40, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
Category:PESA Twist 2012N
category and content have been moved Therud (talk) 19:14, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
Speedily Deleted, moved to Category:Pesa Twist 2012N by author. --rimshottalk 22:03, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
Category:Rabbi
Category:Rabbis exists Jwh (talk) 01:33, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
Merged to Category:Rabbis, as per nom. A bit of overcategorization was also removed on the way. --rimshottalk 06:33, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
Category:Robinson maps of New York published in 1890
I created it in error. I meant to create Category:Robinson maps of Manhattan published in 1890. So I created the latter and moved all the files into it. Now this category is empty and should be discarded. Vzeebjtf (talk) 03:49, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
I am closing this discussion and will use the "Bad name" template instead. Vzeebjtf (talk) 22:45, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
Category:Sanborn maps of New York published in 1899
I created this category in error. I meant to create Category:Sanborn maps of Manhattan published in 1899. So I created the latter and moved all the files into it. Now this category is empty and should be discarded. Vzeebjtf (talk) 03:51, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
- And I compounded the error by sending it here; I should have used the Template:Bad name. I apologize. Vzeebjtf (talk) 22:29, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
I am closing this discussion and will use the "Bad name" template instead. Vzeebjtf (talk) 22:48, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
Category:Sanborn maps of New York published in 1911
I created this category in error. I meant to create Category:Sanborn maps of Manhattan published in 1911. So I created it and moved all the files into it. Now this category is empty and should be discarded. Vzeebjtf (talk) 03:53, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
- And I compounded the error by sending it here; I should have used the Template:Bad name. I apologize. Vzeebjtf (talk) 22:28, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
I am closing this discussion and will use the "Bad name" template instead. Vzeebjtf (talk) 22:54, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
Category:Sanborn maps of Manhattan
Propose forming separate cats for each volume of fire-insurance maps, and starting each cat name with the publication year of the volume, so they display in chronological order. E.g., this cat would be renamed Vzeebjtf (talk) 16:19, 21 October 2014 (UTC) …"Category:1912 Sanborn maps of Manhattan" (I cut my proposal message off by mistake.) Vzeebjtf (talk) 16:21, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
- I hadn't noticed that we had maps from multiple years from Sanborn, but yes, this seems a good response to such a thing. Obviously we could as easily use "|" to sort in parent category by year, or whatever other criterion that would be appropriate to that parent. Jim.henderson (talk) 09:19, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
- Because I think it's important to make clear that 1912 is the publication date, I've named the other categories of this kind a la "Sanborn maps of Manhattan published in 1912". It's not quite as good as leading with the date, but it avoids possible confusion about what the date means. Therefore, I'd name this one in the same way. Vzeebjtf (talk) 23:14, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
I'm going to move the files in this cat, all of which are Sanborn maps of Manhattan published in 1912, to a new Category:Sanborn maps of Manhattan published in 1912, which will stand alongside the cats for other years. Then I will populate the present cat with those cats. Vzeebjtf (talk) 22:49, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
Category:Vienna Rathaus Ice Rink
This appears to be the same thing as Category:Wiener Eistraum. darkweasel94 08:16, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
- Should be uncontroversial … FDMS 4 19:47, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
Clear duplicate category, merging to Category:Wiener Eistraum --Herzi Pinki (talk) 16:54, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
Category:Astor Theatre
Should be moved to Category:Astor Theatre (Perth, Western Australia). There is a Category:Astor Theatre (45th Street, Manhattan) and in English Wikipedia, a stub Astor Theatre, about the 45th Street theatre. Vzeebjtf (talk) 01:51, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
- Perth would be sufficient disambiguation in my opinion … FDMS 4 02:07, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
- There is more than one Perth in Australia for a start, and I would strongly object to Perth, Australia as a qualifier, so support nomination sats (talk) 08:48, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
- Given neither of the other significant Perths have an Astor Theatre, I'd think just Perth to be sufficient disambiguation. Orderinchaos (talk) 09:24, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
- There are multiple cities named Toronto, there are multiple cities named Sydney, there are multiple cities named London. In my opinion further disambiguation is definitely required even if there is no Foo theatre in the other Torontos, Sydneys or Londons, if the city that has the Foo is not overwhelmingly the largest of its homonyms. Even if the city is the largest of its homonyms I still think the further disambiguation is necessary, unless the homonyms are all really tiny.
A couple of years ago the CBC covered the case of two hapless tourists, who went to an airline's ticket agent in Asia, and plunked down money for the next flight to Sydney, experienced a long flight, and were very disappointed to arrive in Sydney, Nova Scotia, when they wanted to go to Sydney, Australia. Geo Swan (talk) 18:48, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
- How about Category:Astor Theatre (Mt. Lawley)? Vzeebjtf (talk) 19:01, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
- Are there any objections to Category:Astor Theatre (Mt. Lawley)? Mt. Lawley is the actual location of the Astor Theatre. Vzeebjtf (talk) 05:14, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
- The category and Wikipedia articles are called Mount Lawley … FDMS 4 10:10, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
- Stong objection to the usage as suggested - the location is found on wp en as w:Mount_Lawley,_Western_Australia in fact, so correctly to disambiguate it needs the correct location usage on wp en - as FDMS points out. sats (talk) 14:18, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
- So Category:Astor Theatre (Mount Lawley) then? Vzeebjtf (talk) 23:09, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
- There are multiple cities named Toronto, there are multiple cities named Sydney, there are multiple cities named London. In my opinion further disambiguation is definitely required even if there is no Foo theatre in the other Torontos, Sydneys or Londons, if the city that has the Foo is not overwhelmingly the largest of its homonyms. Even if the city is the largest of its homonyms I still think the further disambiguation is necessary, unless the homonyms are all really tiny.
I will move the files in this cat to a new Category:Astor Theatre (Mount Lawley), and have this cat deleted. Vzeebjtf (talk) 04:51, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
Category:Museums of Native American culture, Category:Native American museums
Should these be merged? If not, then what is the distinction? Right now, the two categories include each other, which seems silly. Jmabel ! talk 00:53, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
- My thought would be to make Native American Museums a redirect to Museums of Native American culture, which seems like the more correct name. The description in the former makes it clear that its purpose is that of the latter. --jnkyrdsprkl (talk) 21:58, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
- +1, let's not try experimental set theory here. –Be..anyone (talk) 10:39, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
- Ok, merged as described above, only keeping Native American museums and redirecting the other, for consistency with enwiki. Also changed categories to reflect that it's not a U.S.-specific category. --jnkyrdsprkl (talk) 20:05, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
- Only because after taking a broader look, it seemed more consistent with related categories on commons and enwiki (see en:Category:Native_American_museums_in_the_United_States_by_state). I agree it's not the best choice of name, though... --jnkyrdsprkl (talk) 20:07, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
- Keep Category:Native American museums, and merge the other into it. With en:wikipedia using en:Category:Native American museums a simple continuity is maintained. — Look2See1 (talk) 10:49, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
Merged to Category:Native American museums, as per jnkyrdsprkl . --rimshottalk 23:23, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
Category:Taken with Panasonic Lumix DMC-ZS10
Just I want to redirect the Category:Taken with Panasonic Lumix DMC-ZS10 with Category:Taken with Panasonic Lumix DMC-TZ20, because it is an International version, sold almost elsewhere in the world, except North America. Allo002 (talk) 20:18, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
Done -FASTILY 22:10, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
Category:Fredericus van Rossum du Chattel
Doppel mit categorie Category:Fredericus Jacobus van Rossum du Chattel Darf weg. Alle Dateien sinds verschieben worden. Pimbrils (talk) 08:32, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
Deleted.: INeverCry 01:00, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
Category:Hampden-Sydney College
It needs to be deleted. Category was moved to Category:Hampden–Sydney College MorrisS (talk) 23:19, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:02, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
Category:Images from Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 in UK
Redundant to Category:Images from Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 in the United Kingdom Colin (talk) 12:28, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
Deleted, incorrectly named duplicate. --rimshottalk 23:14, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
Category:Sydbanen
To be deleted - replaced by "Ringsted-Rødby Færge" Beethoven9 (talk) 18:50, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:03, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
Category:Internationale Kriegsgräberstätte Birnau
Please delete, as pictures are now under Category:KZ-Friedhof Birnau Roland.h.bueb (talk) 19:43, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:04, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
Category:Political catch phrases
It has no files in its children until Category:Hypertext, which is off-topic from politics. Beland (talk) 20:39, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:22, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
Category:Political slogans
It has no files in its children until Category:Hypertext, which is off-topic from politics. Beland (talk) 20:40, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:21, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
Category:Terminology by ideology
It has no files in its children until Category:Hypertext, which is not ideological. Beland (talk) 20:40, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:17, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
Category:Postmodern terminology
It has no files in its children until Category:Hypertext, which is off-topic from postmodernism.. Beland (talk) 20:41, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:16, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
Category:Works based on actual events
Has no media in any children. All the empty child categories should also be deleted. Beland (talk) 20:43, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: + child cats INeverCry 01:11, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
Category:Cultural heritage monuments in Sörgenloch
Ich möchte alle Bilder der Kategrie "Alter Friedhof" gelöscht bekommen, um sie mit den richtigen Beschreibungen wieder hochladen zu können Nixnubix (talk) 08:24, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
Erronously started cfd by a new user requesting the renaming of some files. --Jergen (talk) 06:32, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
Category:Waterford
This category needs to move as there are a few places called Waterford - the question is to move to Waterford, County Waterford (my preference, in line with other placenames in Ireland) or Waterford, Ireland? -- Deadstar (msg) 11:21, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
- Technically, Waterford is no longer part of the County Waterford. Counties exist as administrative units and as historic geographical objects in Ireland. In most cases, historic counties are still equivalent to their current administrative counterparts in Ireland but there are exceptions as in County Dublin, County Tipperary, and County Waterford. While we at Commons stick in most cases to the historic county system as it is still widely in use as a geographical system of land divisions, we should perhaps avoid the use of counties in case of town or city names where this association is no longer correct in regard to the current system of administrative units. But I want also to raise the question whether we really need this category to be renamed. At en:wp we have still en:Waterford without any further qualification and this city is without question the most well-known city of that name. While it is necessary to move other towns or cities with the same name to a qualified term, I do not see the necessity for the city of Waterford. --AFBorchert (talk) 11:34, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
Category:Memorialists from France
Shouldn't this be Memoirists from France, as in the main category? Jwh (talk) 09:02, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
Support, for consistence with the other categories. Also, memorialist might refer to someone who writes memorials. --rimshottalk 19:45, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
Moved back to Category:Memoirists from France as per nom. --rimshottalk 20:50, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
Category:Prokopchuk
First: All media in this category should be categorised into it and not only be there as a gallery. Second, I can't find any information concerning this artist and all media are unused..? So, should it all be deleted, or should we keep it and try to find out who this artist is? --moralist (talk) 12:22, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
I have found the name of the artist, redirected the category and put images inside the new category. Permissions are still not clear at all. F (talk) 10:06, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
Moved to Category:Oleg Grigorovitch Prokopchuk, the question of permission remains, but is not a category discussion. --rimshottalk 20:52, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
Category:Nachoom Assis
PLEASE DELETE THIS PAGE - I'M NOT SURE WHO CREATED IT AND WHY, BUT IT IS TOTALLY NOT NEEDED. THE CATEGORY CONTAINING PICTURES CREATED BY THIS PHOTOGRAPHER IS Category:Photographs_by_Nachoom_Assis, AS IT SHOULD BE. THIS PAGE JUST CAUSES SOME CONFUSION. Ldorfman (talk) 20:46, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
- First, no need to shout, secondly, you created the category yourself. Anyhow it's unused and can be deleted. --rimshottalk 21:00, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
Deleted, empty duplicate of Category:Photographs_by_Nachoom_Assis. --rimshottalk 21:00, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
Category:Rafael de Penagos
paintings of Rafael de Penagos (1889-1954) are still copyrighted 太刻薄 (talk) 04:30, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
-Even photographs of Penagos' paintings and prints from one of his shows? These are not downloads or copies of photos of his work from the web, but original photos of his work. All these photos are works of mine. Please advise. --Polylerus (talk) 00:18, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
- check Commons:Derivative works. You can't upload photos of copyrighted art--太刻薄 (talk) 15:54, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
- correct staement, nevertheless the category must not be deleted. For those who have copyrights for this and are able to send an OTRS ticket, they can provide media related to this category. For me a weak keep for this category. Greetings from Düsseldorf, Saviour1981 (talk) 12:36, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
- I propose keeping the category with {{No uploads}}, which I added, and nominating the photographs for deletion. Spanish freedom of panorama does not appear cover indoor situations and the exhibition probably wasn't permanent. --rimshottalk 07:24, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
Keeping per Rimshot. BMacZero (talk) 00:57, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
Category:Cherry Street lift bridge
Formerly, all the images that are currently in Category:Cherry Street lift bridge were in Category:Bridge over the Keating Channel at Cherry Street, Toronto, a couple of months ago another contributor decided, without discussing it with anyone else that those images belonged in this new category. The edit summary they used was use name of bridge. This no doubt well-intentioned decision is problematic, for several reasons. First, the obvious, there are TWO lift bridges on Cherry Street, this one built in the 1960s, crossing the canalized mouth of the Don River, and a larger bridge crossing the ship channel to the turning basin, built in the 1930s. Second at least one other lift bridge, possibly several lift bridges, spanned the Don at this location (like this one File:The bascule truss bridge that crossed the Keating Channel in 1915 -a.jpg). Third, I don't think they name they chose is the official name.I have considered going to the city's main reference library, and asking a reference librarian to help me track down the history of all the bridges at this location, which also included a swing bridge. I haven't gotten around to it. I am not tied to the name of the original category. What I would like is for whatever names we use, going forward to be chosen in a discussion that considers the factors that make choosing the base name a challenge. Transit expert Steve Munro says this bridge is likely to be replaced with an ordinary bridge, as there are plans to extend the streetcar south on Cherry.
What I think might be best would be to have a separate category for each bridge, disambiguated by their date of construction and destruction -- except we don't know the dates of most of these bridges. Both of the current bridges have faded plaques on them, but the dates on the earlier bridges?
What should happened in the meantime? Well, I definitely think it is a mistake to have a category with a name that implies there is only a single lift bridge. Most names that do not imply there is just a single lift bridge would be preferable to this name. Personally, I would be satisfied with having this redirect back ot the original category: Category:Bridge over the Keating Channel at Cherry Street, Toronto, but I am not emotionally tied to that name. I merely look for us choosing a better category name than the current one. Geo Swan (talk) 18:17, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
- The parent Category:Bridges on Cherry Street, Toronto takes care of multiple bridges, but the subcategories probably need clarification. Secondarywaltz (talk) 19:00, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
- Are you sure about that? There seem to have been at least five bridges, possibly many more. Some have been left bridges or swing bridges. Prior to the canalization of the mouth, at least one conventional bridges spanned the Don? As I noted above that the current lift bridge where Cherry crosses the Keating Channel will be replaced by a non-lift bridge.
- Why shouldn't the conventional bridges on Cherry Street have a subcategory for them, while the lift bridges and swing bridges have another subcategory?
- You aren't disputing, are you, that each identifiable bridge merits its own subcategory? Geo Swan (talk) 01:39, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
Tagged {{Move}} by Geo Swan 17 December 2015, move exec'd via CommonsDelinker 20 January 2015. --Achim (talk) 18:36, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
Category:Russian words
Not clear what should be put into this category. Pronunciation of Russian words should go to Category:Russian pronunciation. Derbeth talk 16:55, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
Indeed – no "words" in there. FDMS 4 01:54, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
- Created by Foroa, whose last edit on Commons was 14 months ago. If there are no objections I'll move the whole bunch to Category:Russian pronunciation. --Achim (talk) 19:36, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
Moved content to Category:Russian pronunciation. --Achim (talk) 15:41, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Category:São Bonifácio
This category should be moved to Category:São Bonifácio (Santa Catarina), because there are other municipalities called "São Bonifácio" Yanguas (talk) 18:34, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
- Which others are there? --rimshottalk 19:52, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
- None, but I 2nd this request for to avoid confusion with en:Saint Boniface = pt:São Bonifácio. --Achim (talk) 19:45, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
Moved to Category:São Bonifácio (Santa Catarina) and set a {{Disambig}} on Category:São Bonifácio. --Achim (talk) 19:01, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
Category:Underground works construction
Misleading name (underground does not only refer to rapid transit), usage of Metro is encouraged. Therefore, I'm hereby suggesting to move this category to Metro construction. FDMS 4 11:20, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
- This category (now anyway) contains content unrelated to rapid transit. Metro does seem vaguely encouraged, though I would imagine something like Category:Underground rapid transit would be more inclusive of "subways" but that's not the issue for the moment. Anyway, I suggest creating Category:Metro construction, moving appropriate categories there, but leaving it in Category:Underground works construction along with Category:Sewer construction, Category:Tunnel construction and Category:Construction of Cheyenne Mountain Complex. Category:Culverts and Category:Tunnels are not explicitly categories about construction, so they should be removed. Sound good, FDMS4? - Themightyquill (talk) 13:00, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
Done per User:Themightyquill (also created Category:Culvert construction). BMacZero (talk) 18:17, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
Category:Banknotes of Danzig
Reasons for discussion request The present category will not accept images, they are redirected (or subsequently moved) to Banknotes of the Free City of Danzig. The Free City was not formed until 1919. Prior to its existence, Danzig issued banknotes from 1914 to 1919 under the authority of the local City Council. These notes should not be in the Free City category as it is incorrect from an historical and numismatic perspective. The two issues are even in different currency types (Mark vs. Gulden). Thanks in advance for any help, and I'm not sure who I am supposed to notify...--Godot13 (talk) 22:41, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
- This category currently redirects to Category:Banknotes of the Free City of Danzig. I'm fine with creating a Category:Banknotes of Danzig or Category:Banknotes of Danzig (1914-1919) if we have images to go in that category. Do we have any images from that period? - Themightyquill (talk) 13:06, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
Deleted. Riley Huntley (talk) 05:54, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
Category:Viary heritage of Louvain-la-Neuve
- Also concerned: Category:Viary heritage of Grez-Doiceau
Unclear name. Viary does not seem to exist in English. Only 2 examples of such name found. Streets and walking paths are generally placed in categories like "transport in" or "transport infrastructures in", which seem clearer. BrightRaven (talk) 08:03, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
- Hello everyone! :-)
- I created both categories because I was feeling a need for a supercategory which would contain the categories of Streets and the categories of Walking Paths pertaining to these places, and possibly later, categories of Bridges, Public Stairs, and so on. The distinction between the two current subcategories seems indeed blurry at least, since some ways start as street and end as walking paths as they venture into the countryside.
- About the word, viary, I chose the title by translating the French "Patrimoine viaire", which I found in some official documents issued by the Commune of Grez-Doiceau, like this one about the way the Commune intended to handle its walking paths. I found the English word viary in the Webster's online dictionary but nowhere else.
- I agree that both the French word viaire and the Englsih word viary are quite highly uncommon, which does contribute to making the titles of these categories unclear, as BrightRaven pointed out. I chose them because I was unable to find any instance of supercategory for categories of walking paths and of streets. Transport infrastructures seems fine to me.
- However, may I ask that the keyword patrimoine viaire would remain in the French description (not necessarily its title) of the renamed supercategory? As it has been repeatedly used by local citizens' associations as well as by some associations of strollers, I feel it would make the ressources in its subcategories more easily reachable to them from search engines.
- Thanks to BrightRaven for this suggestion of a more clear name. Have a very nice day. Sincerely yours, VerboseDreamer (talk) 11:03, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
Done: categories moved to "Transport infrastructure in…" as standard. Ruthven (msg) 08:34, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
Category:John K. Chen
Non-notable person does not need his own cat. –Be..anyone (talk) 02:53, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
Keep Why "Non-notable"? Currently you can buy three of his books even in German language 37.5.6.178 05:26, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
- JFTR, also see Commons:Deletion_requests/File:John_Chen.jpg and the edit histories. –Be..anyone (talk) 13:43, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
Not done: no valid reason for deletion. Ruthven (msg) 08:41, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
Category:Pulpit covers in Germany
IMHO this category should be merged with the existing Category:Abat-voix in Germany. Jwh (talk) 12:30, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
Redirected to Abat-voix by Herzi Pinki in May 2015. - Themightyquill (talk) 18:41, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
Category:Pulpit covers in France
IMHO this category should be merged with the existing Category:Abat-voix in France. Jwh (talk) 12:31, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
Redirected to Abat-voix by Herzi Pinki in May 2015. - Themightyquill (talk) 18:41, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
Category:Pulpit covers in Denmark
IMHO this category should be merged with the existing Category:Abat-voix in Denmark. Jwh (talk) 12:32, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
Redirected to Abat-voix by Herzi Pinki in May 2015. - Themightyquill (talk) 18:42, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
Category:Viary heritage of Grez-Doiceau
- Also concerned: Category:Viary heritage of Louvain-la-Neuve
I copy here my answer to a comment of BrightRaven suggesting to rename the category as "Transport in" or "Transport infrastructure in", in the discussion about the above mentioned category Viary heritage of Louvain-la-Neuve.
- Hello everyone! :-)
- I created both categories because I was feeling a need for a supercategory which would contain the categories of Streets and the categories of Walking Paths pertaining to these places, and possibly later, categories of Bridges, Public Stairs, and so on. The distinction between the two current subcategories seems indeed blurry at least, since some ways start as street and end as walking paths as they venture into the countryside.
- About the word, viary, I chose the title by translating the French "Patrimoine viaire", which I found in some official documents issued by the Commune of Grez-Doiceau, like this one about the way the Commune intended to handle its walking paths. I found the English word viary in the Webster's online dictionary but nowhere else.
- I agree that both the French word viaire and the Englsih word viary are quite highly uncommon, which does contribute to making the titles of these categories unclear, as BrightRaven pointed out. I chose them because I was unable to find any instance of supercategory for categories of walking paths and of streets. Transport infrastructures seems fine to me.
- However, may I ask that the keyword patrimoine viaire would remain in the French description (not necessarily its title) of the renamed supercategory? As it has been repeatedly used by local citizens' associations as well as by some associations of strollers, I feel it would make the ressources in its subcategories more easily reachable to them from search engines.
- Thanks to BrightRaven for this suggestion of a more clear name. Have a very nice day.
Sincerely yours, VerboseDreamer (talk) 11:58, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
Redirected to Category:Transport infrastructure in Grez-Doiceau and Category:Transport infrastructure in Louvain-la-Neuve by Steinsplitter in December 2016. - Themightyquill (talk) 21:30, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
Category:Streamliner (train)
What is this category for? Its own categorization and the grammatical form of its name would suggest that it's one specific named train of one railroad. OTOH, its contents suggest its a generic grouping for any streamlined train of the USA. Which is it? We need to clarify that before we can clean it up. Andy Dingley (talk) 22:32, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
- Well, it's been much-abused, but Streamliner was the actual name for a train operated by the Spokane, Portland and Seattle Railway. Here's an actual picture of it: File:SP^S 801 Lv PDX July 1970cr - Flickr - drewj1946.jpg. It was the connecting train for the Empire Builder and North Coast Limited. There's no corresponding English Wikipedia article. A move to Category:Streamliner (SPS train) would end the confusion. Mackensen (talk) 01:12, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
- Well I wouldn't call it abuse since that implies malicious intent. I didn't realize there was a whole category for the one image of the SPS train, which as you mentioned doesn't even have a corresponding article. I thought this was for streamliner trains. There is currently no category for streamliner trains but there is one for Category:Streamlined locomotives and I thought this was the category for the trains and not just their locomotives. I agree that the easiest way to fix this would be to reformat this category as a page for streamliner trains and possibly to keep the Streamliner (SPS train) category if it's really necessary or valuable to have a category that only has one image in it and no corresponding wikipedia article.Monopoly31121993 (talk) 07:52, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
Moved to Category:Streamliner (SPS train) and placed in newly created Category:Streamlined trains. - Themightyquill (talk) 21:46, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
Category:Coats of arms of Reichlin family
löschen, da doppelt, richtige ist COA Reichlin von Meldeck (family) Hannes 24 (talk) 07:03, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
- Where is the other category? (Wo soll die andere Kategorie sein?) FDMS 4 18:24, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
Redirected to Category:Coats of arms of Reichlin von Meldegg family by WolfD59 in 2015. - Themightyquill (talk) 21:32, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
Category:Washington Supreme Court
Delete, is empty category duplicated by Category:Washington State Temple of Justice Brianhe (talk) 21:52, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
- I hope this is a teaching moment. Sorry nominator, but your nomination is flawed for several reasons:
- The older category is empty, because you recategorized the images it contained, emptying it yourself: , , . That was misleading. The older category was empty, because you emptied it.
- Categories, they really suck, as a tool for organizing our content. But, until they are replaced, we are stuck with them. Until they are superceded it is important to use them carefully. If you had used the {{Move}} template:
- The person who created the original category would have been able to give their input on your choice of replacement name;
- Other people could have given their input. What if other people didn't agree with you, and thought the original name was best;
- If an administrator saw that your suggestion wasn't challenged, or judged your choice had the better arguments, then, first, a robot would have taken care of recategorizing the images that were elements of the category; second, the existing category would have been renamed, which means that its earlier history would be preserved in the new name. That history preservation is important for a number of reasons.
- It wasn't the case here, but some categories have a sentence or two of explanation, as to what they contain. The earlier category didn't have an explanation, but it should have. It would have been useful to distinguish between the Washington State Supreme Court and the Washington DC Supreme Court. If the earlier category had contained a sentence or two of explanation, the licenses that apply to all intellectual property contributed here entitled whoever drafted that explanation to have that explanation attributed to them. This is best done when the original contribution history is preserved after the move, as when one uses the {{Move}} template.
- Our category hierarchy is in a constant state of flux. Someone who has concerns over the current parent categories a category is in could find it useful to look at the parent categories it was formerly contained in. If you had used the {{Move}} template, that would have preserved the contribution history, that would be easier to do. If the earlier category is preserved as a redirect, someone would have to know to look there, as well. If the earlier category is deleted -- which is what you proposed here -- that possibly useful information is lost, with absolutely no corresponding benefit.
- You treat the earlier category name, and your preferred name, as if they were synonyms. But they are not. Images of documents, like charters, that concerned the founding of the court, or were otherwise relevant to the court, could meaningfully fit under the earlier category name, but not under your more specific name. I don't think you considered this.
- How old is Washington State? Has this been the only building where its Supreme Court met? If the court had an earlier home, or if it had a temporary home, if the "temple of justice" needed repairs or renovation, images of the other homes would fit in the earlier category, but not in yours.
- When an older category has had meaningful content in the past it is generally recognized that it is a mistake to delete it, even if it is now empty, and no other wikimedia project has an incoming link to it -- as we have no way of knowing if this one, or many incoming links to it from external third party web pages. If a superceded category is redirected to the new replacement category those external links don't break. When a superceded category is deleted we risk making the project look fragile and unreliable, when people try to use those external links, and they break, because the target has been deleted.
- The older category had Category:Government buildings in Olympia, Washington as a parent cat. Your new category doesn't. Is there a reason why?
- For the reasons above I urge you to refrain from creating new parallel categories, and filling it with the images from some existing category, just because you don't personally like the older categories name. If you are going to do any more work on categories, please consider using the {{Move}} template, instead. Geo Swan (talk) 19:46, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
- @Geo Swan: Can we keep both categories, using Category:Washington Supreme Court as a base, which would include judges and any number of things, and Category:Washington State Temple of Justice for this one specific building? If there were other courthouses, they could be placed here as well. - Themightyquill (talk) 18:39, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
Closing with Category:Washington Supreme Court for all images related to the court as an instution, and Category:Washington State Temple of Justice as a sub-category for the building. - Themightyquill (talk) 14:15, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
Category:Underground stations
Does "underground" refer to urban rapid transit here? Please call it "Metro stations" then to include overground stations. Otherwise, please remove it from Category:Rapid transit stations. FDMS 4 15:10, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
- The "U-Bahn" in Hamburg has lots of overground stations; I guess that's normal. You could add an info about the inclusion of only partially underground metro lines with overground stations on the category page. –Be..anyone (talk) 10:15, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
- FDMS4 and Be..anyone, my proposal is to rename this and its subcategories in Underground metro stations. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 14:08, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
- @Blackcat: Sounds good, but shouldn't there also be a Metro stations parent category then? FDMS 4 10:55, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
- @FDMS4: At this point, to keep consistency, I guess yes, there should be. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 11:13, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
- There are overground metro stations (such as the Hamburg U-Bahn) and also underground (non-metro) railway station such as Category:Helsinki-Vantaa Airport railway station. Thus, I think this category has a purpose and there is nothing wrong with the current naming but its parent categories should be Category:Train stations by type and maybe Category:Rail tunnels but not Category:Rapid transit stations nor Category:Subterranean rapid transit.
- Category:Underground stations could have a newly-created subcategory Category:Underground rapid transit stations but not Category:Underground metro stations. This is for naming consistency: the parent category is Category:Rapid transit stations, and Category:Metro stations by city redirects to Category:Rapid transit stations by city. ––Apalsola t • c 19:46, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
- Would I be right to guess that "Underground stations" would apply to stations that aren't considered rapid transit, such as the SEPTA Subway–Surface Trolley Lines, or something like that? ----DanTD (talk) 05:00, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- @FDMS4: At this point, to keep consistency, I guess yes, there should be. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 11:13, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
- @Blackcat: Sounds good, but shouldn't there also be a Metro stations parent category then? FDMS 4 10:55, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
- Currently, the category has parent categories of Category:Rapid transit stations, Category:Train stations by type and Category:Subterranean rapid transit, which would seem to suggest we're talking about rapid transit stations only, but it currently contains Category:Underground bus stations and Category:Underground train stations in the United States. I would recommend moving to Category:Subterranean transport buildings with parents Category:Subterranean transport, Category:Underground buildings, and Category:Transport buildings. If we really need to sub-divide from there on, we can do so. - Themightyquill (talk) 21:26, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
- FDMS4 and Be..anyone, my proposal is to rename this and its subcategories in Underground metro stations. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 14:08, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
Implemented as suggested above. I have renamed the category tree to underground public transport stations to decrease the ambiguity and in order to bring it in line with Category:Public transport stations, terminals and stops (which I added in addition to the categories suggested by Themightyquill). Leaving metro stations vs. (rail) rapid transit stations (imo not synonymous) for another CFD. FDMS 4 19:00, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
Category:Advocacy and activism
Advocacy is very close to activism and can be in the same category. Jonund (talk) 16:39, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
- Apparently this category was an attempt to organize the close relationship. What do you suggest to do with the (at the moment empty) advocacy, if A&a is deleted? –Be..anyone (talk) 22:56, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
- All that needs to be done is moving the 528 files and 4 categories of Category:Activism into Category:Advocacy and activism. Hyacinth (talk) 02:36, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
- Activism is simpler than Advocacy and activism, and it is the word that comes to mind for most who work with categorizing, so I would prefer to keep only that category. Category redirects are discouraged, so it is best to delete empty categories. --Jonund (talk) 19:48, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
- I would propose moving content into Category:Activism, deleting Category:Advocacy and activism, and creating a redirect at Category:Advocacy to Category:Activism. - Themightyquill (talk) 18:44, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
No opposition in a year. Deleted in favour of Category:Activism. - Themightyquill (talk) 18:51, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
Category:Twin-piston-engine General aviation aircraft
rename to Category:Twin-piston-engine general aviation aircraft or maybe GA, but not Ga Andy Dingley (talk) 22:10, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
- OK so far, but not only "GA", which is unknown outside the aviation community. NB: Whole discussion & possible changes would also apply to the other 3 subcategories within "General aviation aircraft". --Uli Elch (talk) 05:29, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
- I would favour "ga" in this case. As I recall, there was a "General Aviation" company in existence at one time so Category:Twin-piston-engine General Aviation aircraft is thus a valid category, but would mean something different.
- The capitalisation MOS issue applies to a lot of these newly created categories. Maybe more care in creation would require less cleanup afterwards. Andy Dingley (talk) 10:30, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
- I agree with most of your conclusions. Still, in my opinion an abbreviation should not be used, because it is recognizable to insiders only. So I suggest to exchange just the capital "G" and rename it "...-engine general aviation ...". Since it was me who created that somewhat incorrect category name I have no objections if you go straight ahead and change it (the other 3 as well). --Uli Elch (talk) 15:21, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
Done: per discussion. Ruthven (msg) 06:59, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
Category:Flagpoles in California
Placement under Category:California or under Category:Flags of California Mjrmtg (talk) 12:43, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
- Copying from the categories discussion page: Flagpoles look the same everywhere, and really do not need by location-categories. Categories of countries and states tend to be rather crowded, and therefore, it is usually important to put the subcategories as far down in the category tree as possible. Category:Flagpoles in California is a typical example of a category that clutters Category:California, makes it more difficult to get sight of the category you look for, and annoys readers. Hence, it is better to place it in Category:Flags of California. So, while the editor who reverted my edit, where I placed the category in Category:Flags of California, is right that not all flagpoles in California have flags of California on them, I propose that we give priority to user-friendliness over trying to attain strict logical consistency. --Jonund (talk) 17:54, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
- I don't think they should be placed under Category:Flags of California as like my revert did state not all flagpoles in California has flags of California on them and there will be some flagpoles that have no flags on them at all. --Mjrmtg (talk) 12:46, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
Keep, unless I'm misunderstanding something about the nomination. Like almost everything with physical locations (as opposed to radio signals, mathematic illustrations, etc.), location is a good basis for dividing the flagpoles; no reason to delete it on Jonund's suggestion. Don't put it under Flags of California; that's for flags specifically associated with California, and sometimes people use flatpoles in California to fly other flags. See COM:OCAT and the bit about glass spheres; categories rely on ontology, not the contents at any given moment. Nyttend (talk) 04:37, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
- I guess flagpoles should be a subset of structures? Move all flagpoles to cat:Structures in XX?--Roy17 (talk) 20:43, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
Keep and upper cat for category:flagpoles can be cat:Structures in XX as suggested by user:Roy17--Estopedist1 (talk) 12:18, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
Not done: per discussion. --ƏXPLICIT 01:00, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
Category:U-Bahn stations in Munich
This CFD is about most of this category's subcategories. In my opinion, U-Bahnhof is not a proper name, but a German-only term for metro station. According to the English Wikipedia, subway and underground only refer to [systems] that [go] underground, and Metro is the most common term on Commons and the title of the English Wikipedia article.
Therefore I hereby suggest using the [name] metro station [if required: (Munich)] naming scheme for all metro station subcategories.
FDMS 4 21:22, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
Ping: User:Platte, User:Gorgo
- The U-Bahn in Hamburg consistently uses U for everything related to its partially underground lines, and S for S-Bahn (rapid transport). Metro station would be rather unclear, neither U nor S is a proper metro line in Hamburg. Something like a metro system was abandoned four decades ago. Meanwhile some bus (sic!) lines are tagged as metro bus, incl. buses following the historic metro lines. Presumably the best name depends on the city/region. –Be..anyone (talk) 10:24, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
- I think the Hamburger U-Bahn (which isn't subject of this CFD; don't they call it Hochbahn BTW?) fulfils the metro "criteria": It is an urban guided transport systems "operated on their own right of way and segregated from general road and pedestrian traffic. [It is] consequently designed for operations in tunnel, viaducts or on surface level but with physical separation in such a way that inadvertent access is not possible. I guess the Hamburger S-Bahn isn't entirely urban … FDMS 4 18:09, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, the company is HHA (Hamburger Hochbahn AG), but the commonly used name is "U foo" as shorthand for "U-Bahn foo", where an unadorned "foo" would be unclear. Notably not "U-Bahnhof foo", that would be the building, not the station. I can't judge the situation in Munich. –Be..anyone (talk) 06:12, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
- I think the Hamburger U-Bahn (which isn't subject of this CFD; don't they call it Hochbahn BTW?) fulfils the metro "criteria": It is an urban guided transport systems "operated on their own right of way and segregated from general road and pedestrian traffic. [It is] consequently designed for operations in tunnel, viaducts or on surface level but with physical separation in such a way that inadvertent access is not possible. I guess the Hamburger S-Bahn isn't entirely urban … FDMS 4 18:09, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
Ping: @Be..anyone and FDMS4:
Hi
What is the status of this discussion? Today, both U-Bahn and S-Bahn names of Munich stations are mostly not conform to the usual naming conventions for metro stations categories in Commons.
My suggestions for Munich stations:
- For pure metro station (U-Bahn) I propose : foo (Munich U-Bahn).
- Example: Oberwiesenfeld (Munich U-Bahn) instead of U-Bahnhof Oberwiesenfeld
- For regional/rapid urban railway stations (S-Bahn) I propose : foo (Munich S-Bahn).
- Example : Isartor (Munich S-Bahn) instead of Bahnhof München Isartor
- For stations hosting both U-Bahn and S-Bahn stations (like Karlsplatz (Stachus) or Marienplatz), I propose to keep the name Bahnhof München foo for all pictures related to commons spaces (entrances, stairs, shops, escalators, structures,...) to the U-Bahn and S-Bahn railway stations and to have 2 sub-categories for each types : foo (Munich U-Bahn) and foo (Munich S-Bahn).
- Example: Marienplatz(Munich U-Bahn) and Marienplatz(Munich S-Bahn) subcategories of Category:Bahnhof München Marienplatz and each under Categoty:U-Bahn stations in Munich or Category:Train stations of S-Bahn München
I have still lot of pictures of Munich U/S stations to download and I would like to have a common decision on this topic before. Thanks/Regards. --Poudou99 (talk) 18:00, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
- U-Bahn and Bahnhof are not proper nouns and therefore should be translated. [station name] ([system name]) is an English Wikipedia naming convention, here on Commons brackets are generally only used as a means of disambiguation where necessary. Also, most S-Bahn station are primarily regular train stations and as such shouldn't have any special naming (correct one would be [station name] train station). FDMS 4 21:34, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
- OK. U-Bahn and S-Bahn are not usual English names, I agree. But these words are used in many German language countries like Germany, Austria, Switzerland... where some cities have both metro and regional stations inside the city.
- In France, at Paris, we have the same difference between real metro stations and Reseau Express Regional stations (named RER) in Paris. In French there is a difference between the wording station de métro xxx (mainly used for the naming of RATP metro stations) and the wording gare de xxx (mainly used for the naming of SNCF underground railway stations). And this wording difference allows to distinguish the two kind of underground stations inside Paris.
- I'm not a German speaker (my native language is French), so I don't know what are the real good German names (whatever English speakers believe or think on this subject - English is only a common languages in Commons not an obligation for local category naming conventions). I just know that U-Bahn an S-Bahn words are well known in Europe for many people and tourists having travel in these countries.
- I can accept any proposals, let me know yours for the 2 types of Munich stations (and not only for Munich).
- Best regard/ --Poudou99 (talk) 22:27, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
Not done: no consensus for any possible rename. --✗plicit 12:15, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
Category:Parlement européen Strasbourg 1er juillet 2014
No need for "on [day]" categories here (especially when they're named in French). Hereby suggesting moving all files to the parent category. FDMS 4 03:50, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
Oppose (then
Keep): Which category should be the "parent category" where files would be moved? If we move to just "European Parliament, Strasbourg", we should add a lot of other categories in separate files, and that's not very convenient for the categorizing. For "CfD 2014-10", "2014 in Strasbourg" "July 2014 in France" and "2014-07-01" it's more convenient to keep this category. If needed we can rename the category to have it in English, but French is allowed, especially for this kind of categories localized in one specific place in France (even if we are in some European place). For me, having a category with date is related to an event, then there is no problem to keep it. Jeriby (talk) 08:15, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
Delete, this is just a very silly idea. The same members of the European parliament could also meet in Bruxelles (admittedly not on the same day.) –Be..anyone (talk) 06:30, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
- Is that less silly to add "CfD 2014-10", "2014 in Strasbourg" "July 2014 in France" and "2014-07-01", then 4 categories (!) on each picture? Moreover the result would be that theses pictures would be diluted (and a bit lost) in categories that could have a big amount of files from a large geographic area (especially 2014-07-01 where it can be from over the world)? I doubt... Jeriby (talk) 08:19, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
- Try something else, how about [[Category:Parlement européen 2014]]? If that turns out to be too broad split it by month or similar, starting with daily categories for something that doesn't happen daily is just odd, or maybe it's only me. –Be..anyone (talk) 19:51, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
- It would probably make sense to categorise by term … but then, images would still have to be put in date categories "manually". Anyway, in English, the institution is called European Parliament … FDMS 4 20:12, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah, one of their names, and a rule here to simplify i18n and searches. –Be..anyone (talk) 21:37, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
Comment There are other similar categories, indicating that there are days corresponding to some event in the European Parliament (see Category:Events_in_European_Parliament,_Strasbourg). We could rename it "1st of July 2014 in European Parliament, Strasbourg" or "2014-07-01 in European Parliament, Strasbourg". --Ruthven (msg) 07:09, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
- What's the significance of this day in European Parliament? Was it the inaugural session of the year? If it's just one ordinary sitting and nothing special happened, delete this category for sure and move contents up to cat:European Parliament in 2014 or ..in July 2014.--Roy17 (talk) 20:52, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
@FDMS4, Jeriby, Be..anyone, Ruthven, and Roy17: For the sake of some movement after 6 years, I propose a move to Category:European Parliament, Strasbourg on 2014-07-01 which matches both Category:France photographs taken on 2014-07-01 and most of the subcategories of Category:Events in European Parliament, Strasbourg. It also conforms with Commons:Language policy. If there is need for further discussion about the category's existance, a new discussion can be started. Any opposed? - Themightyquill (talk) 12:57, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Themightyquill: The category is redundant with Category:Fotoprojekt EP 2014. They should be merged in the latter (maintaining all the parent categories). I reckon that even a category redirect is pointless i nthe case of this one. --Ruthven (msg) 10:32, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Keep but delete subcategory. It looks like every photograph is redundantly in the photoproject subcategory. In theory then, they should be moved to the subcategory leaving six images in the main category. The fotoproject is not really the event that occurred. The other meetings at en:Category:Events in European Parliament, Strasbourg are listed by month and year so perhaps Category:European Parliament meeting July 2014? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:46, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
Keep but delete subcategory Rename the category European Parliament plenary session July 2014 to match others in parent cat: events in European Parliament, Strasbourg. Delete cat: Fotoprojekt EP 2014.—2601:5CB:C080:1640:1876:FA6D:5A14:F4C8 06:13, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
- I agree with Ricky81682: maintaining the day doesn't make a lot of sense after all. --Ruthven (msg) 10:24, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
- Also agreed on Category:European Parliament plenary session July 2014 for now to match others in Category:Events in European Parliament, Strasbourg. In general, I would prefer the date format yyyy-mm-dd as it is more broadly used on Commons, but we should make it consistent with its category first. We can discuss a broader change to the whole parent category in the future as warranted. Josh (talk) 20:57, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Themightyquill: Any issue with moving forward with this as proposed so we can close this one? Josh (talk) 20:57, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Joshbaumgartner: Fine by me. - Themightyquill (talk) 20:15, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
@Themightyquill, Ruthven, Ricky81682, FDMS4, and Jeriby: Closed (rename parent; delete sub) Josh (talk) 01:56, 24 December 2021 (UTC)