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Bot's tasks for which permission is being sought: Commons:Batch uploading/Landesarchiv Baden-Württemberg

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-- DaxServer (talk) 17:36, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

Discussion

• For latest test run: https://editgroups-commons.toolforge.org/b/OR/3249b63c509/ and other 4 at https://editgroups-commons.toolforge.org/?user=CuratorBot -- DaxServer (talk) 17:36, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

  Why is the Landesarchiv copyright holder of File:Mayer, Maximilian - LABW - Hauptstaatsarchiv Stuttgart M 707 Nr. 1001 -1.jpg, and why isn't this documented in the file page? Krd 17:41, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

  Pinging @TheImaCow for further details into the project -- DaxServer (talk) 18:00, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

  Per the Terms of Use (March 2025, section "Nutzungsbedingungen Online-Katalog"), all digitized archive material which is available online is either a) public domain, b) except from copyright protection as government work, or c) still protected by copyright. Where it is still protected by copyright, the archive has acquired the necessary rights to distribute it under CC-BY licence. The exact status of individual objects is generally not available, so we use CC-BY everywhere. It can be manually changed to public domain later, when applicable.

  A link to these terms of use is at the top in the "Licencing" template. Maybe the template could be improved so that this link is more prominently visible.

  Many collections where copyright matters state explicitly that objects where the copyright has not been transferred to the archive are not available digitally (e.g. here, bottom 4 paragraphs)

  The very recently updated/current version of the Terms of Use states these three categories +"in rare cases" permission is required for reuse. However, this update is from April 2025, we started this project in August last year, so more recently digitized material where such permission would potentially be required is not included in the upload. ~TheImaCow (talk) 19:33, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

  In the example I mentioned above, File:Mayer, Maximilian - LABW - Hauptstaatsarchiv Stuttgart M 707 Nr. 1001 -1.jpg, the image is clearly marked as "copyright undetermined" at the source. Please elaborate. Krd 07:49, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

  Terms of use state

  Copyright Undetermined: Eine Weiterverwendung ist im Einzelfall zu prüfen. Es handelt sich um Archivgut, dessen Bestandteile rechtlich unterschiedlich sind. In den Archivalieneinheiten können enthalten sein a) gemeinfreie Werke, b) amtliche Werke, die gemäß § 5 UrhG vom Urheberrechtschutz ausgenommen sind, und c) Werke, für die das Land Baden-Württemberg übertragbare Verwertungsrechte innehat und für die insoweit eine CC-BY-Lizenz gewährt wird. Aufgrund dennoch ggf. noch bestehender Rechte Dritter ist eine Weiterverwendung im Einzelfall zu prüfen.

• Meaning most files with this tag should be free, but there can be exceptions. To be sure, I checked the collections selected for upload and found these ones where "Copyright undetermined" is used. Rest is marked PD or CC.

  To be sure, we can leave them out from the upload.

  (Note that this distinction between PD/CC/undetermined is only there since a month or so)

• ~TheImaCow (talk) 14:29, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

  I think it's not "we can leave them out" but "we have to leave them out", isn't it? Which files with unclear copyright status have been uploaded already? --Krd 03:20, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

  Here're those files:

  • File:Angeklagter- Fauser, Johannes (Gutspächter); Lörrach *11.03.1899 in Talheim; + ? Delikt- Verbrechen gegen die Kriegswirtschaftsverordnung Schwarzschla - LABW - Staatsarchiv Freiburg A 47-1 Nr. 1004 -1.jpg
  • File:Mayer, Maximilian - LABW - Hauptstaatsarchiv Stuttgart M 707 Nr. 1001 -1.jpg
  • File:Jägerrennen auf dem Feldberg- Graf Schliefen (?) startet die Kommandoteilnehmer - LABW - Generallandesarchiv Karlsruhe )F-S Paulcke Nr. 8087).jpg
  • File:Mayer, Eduard, Dr.med. - LABW - Hauptstaatsarchiv Stuttgart M 707 Nr. 1000 -2.jpg
  • File:Information from Landesarchiv Baden-Württemberg Hauptstaatsarchiv Stuttgart M 707 Nr. 1000 Bestand-6597 permalink 1-327806-1.jpg

  In some cases, like File:Photograph from Landesarchiv Baden-Württemberg Staatsarchiv Ludwigsburg PL 4-81 Nr 100 Bestand-24468 permalink 2-2951655-1.jpg, there is no marking of a specific license, I suppose it would be the default CC-BY license.

  I started populating this information again, should take a few weeks. -- DaxServer (talk) 11:33, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

Here are the stats by license:

• CC-BY 4.0 - 298437
• CC PDM 1.0 - 76300
• UND 1.0 - 216695
• None - 35408 - assumed CC-BY 4.0 as it's the default

Thus the undetermined would be skipped -- DaxServer (talk) 13:29, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

What about those already uploaded? Krd 17:39, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

The document is below TOO, people skiing is PD-old-assumed. Portraits are probably PD-anon-70-EU, but I didn't look into that.

Delete those 5 to be sure~TheImaCow (talk) 21:17, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

I'd say I'd appreciated if you'd put speed deletion request on them. Which other problems do we have with the uploads? Please make another test run. Krd 07:06, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

@Krd I've done another test run: , , , , , , , , , - I do not think there are any further problems with the files. The one remaining in the list above, I've marked is in DR. -- DaxServer (talk) 13:39, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Looks good to me. Pinging @Krd. ~TheImaCow (talk) 20:58, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Approved. --Krd 06:24, 29 May 2025 (UTC)