File:ARGOS Launch, 23 Feb 1999.jpeg

No source. No authorship information, unknown copyright situation. Jcb (talk) 09:44, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

•  Keep I added source, author, and date; shame on the uploader, transferor, and nominator for not doing that themselves. I also notified the responsible humans; shame on the nominator for not notifying them. As a work of the United States Air Force, this photo is in the Public Domain, so I dispute the nominator's claim of "unknown copyright situation."   — Jeff G. ツ 13:39, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Please provide any evidence that this comes indeed from the USAF. You cannot just assume a source. I did a reverse image search before nominating and could not track it back to a USAF site. Please do not randomly get angry with people while you are the one who seems actually mistaken here. Jcb (talk) 13:45, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
• I don't think it's necessary to "shame" anyone here. We all make mistakes, even users in 2007 were capable of it. But this photo was tagged on upload at the time with USAF attribution. The lack of presence of the photo on a USAF publicly accessible photo database or webpage does not necessarily mean it was not taken by them. At the time of upload, it may well have been accessible on the web. These military websites are not very comprehensive and I came across multiple broken .mil links during my research. Initially when I judged the context of this photo, I thought it might be fair to say that not many private citizens could really have the access to take this type of photograph: the launch took place at an air force base, and with consideration for security in mind it might not have been possible for anyone other than an Air Force photographer, or NASA personnel. I came across this news article which contains a photograph of the ARGOS on 23 Feb 1999 (it is 1 of 3 including the suspect, that I was able to find). The photo is credited to Santa Maria Times as a file photo. The perspective looks a little bit more compressed and further away than the suspect photo here, but I think it leaves an open question whether or not private journalists were able to take photos that night (leaving room for this suspect to have been a private photo). In opposition of this, File:CloudSat-CALIPSO Launch Successfully, Image of the Day DVIDS749611.jpg, a photo from 2006 at the same air force base shows a satelite launch from a similar angle as the suspect (if not, a little bit further away): and this is a NASA photo. [For other's references, the only other images I could find of this rocket/spacecraft: , ]. I accept that this talk about camera angles is just my perspective and speculation in the end, but I believe it is a fair assumption that the USAF is associated with the creation of this photograph, as designated by the enwiki uploader at the time, and given the unlikelihood that anyone else had the capability to create it. seb26 (talk) 03:55, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Deleted: It must be proven beyond a significant doubt that thisis a USAF image -- given that there are similar civilian images cited above, that proof is clearly not present. Note that the burden of proof is on those who want to keep an image -- "a fair assumption" is far from meeting that burden of proof. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 13:41, 29 May 2017 (UTC)